I am confused between TVS Apache RTR 160 4V and Yamaha FZ S V3 under 1.20 lakh. Please suggest me one. Their is a saying the brakes of Yamaha FZ S V3 are not up to mark. What is the reality - Gixxer 2019?

Even I too thought of choosing Apache only, but cost wise not that much diff bro.. only very less price diff, but durable is Yamaha only , even after 5 years of riding Yamaha bikes, it won't go down and won't get vibration and all, but Apache and pulsar will give more vibration.. I was having TVS bike oly before my Yamaha FZ-S V3.. performance also fine only...Before going with Yamaha FZ-S V3, I have checked a list of bikes like RE Thunderbird, RE Bullet classic, Apache 160v4, Apache 200, Yamaha FZ-S v2 and V3, Bajaj Pulsar 160, even Honda Hornet also I have tried. Decided Yamaha FZ-S V3 finally.. took around an year (From Jan 2019 till Nov 23, 2019) ... 😄😄Moreover Apache is Indian made so cost must be lesser than Yamaha which is getting imported and tax duties must be high.. I didn't meant to say Indian bikes are cheaper and Yamaha is good bcos of Foreign made.. but it's a fact... If you consider there is some value for engine and durability of it, go for Yamaha or else Honda bikes than TVS and Bajaj bikes... 😊

I am 41 years old, 107kg 5ft7in. I need a bike for city rides and occasional intra city rides. A big priority is bike should be good in handling and braking. My priority is also for a family bike with rear seat comfortable for ladies sitting. My earlier bike was a Yamaha FZ-25, which is an overkill for my purpose. I don't need a sports bike, but a good handler and a torquey bike, since I weigh 107kg. Another priority is least maintenance and good service. My eyes are on (1)Apache 1604v or 180cc BS6(2) Royal Enfield Classic 350 (used)(3) Honda Hornet BS6Is there any better choice for me? I don't really want Royal Enfield. But the comfort and ability to take family on that motorcycle in slow speeds makes it interesting. I had owned Bullet Electra 4S in the past and am afraid of maintenance and reliability issues of RE. I plan to buy in few months and need a safe bike with good handling and braking. (I had a bad accident with FZ25 - I will say, the main reason is that bike has a cruising speed above 90kmph and you shouldn't really ride in that speed, especially in the city.) That's why I'm looking down to Apache's which seemingly have good handling and cruising speed may be 50-80kmph). Please help.

The best bike as per your requirements will be Royal Enfield Classic 350. It delivers decent power and offers great comfort for both pillion and rider. And now, it is available with the option of Dual Channel ABS to. However, it attracts a bit more maintenance cost as compared to other options. Apart from it, you may look for Hero Xtreme 160R and TVS Apache RTR 160 4V. Talk about getting it right. The hero has managed to tune the brakes on the Xtreme to near perfection. It offers adequate brake bite and feedback through its levers and allows you to slam on the brakes and bring the bike to a dead stop a couple of meters before the RTR 160 4V. The difference in braking distances could be attributed to the RTR’s extra heft. Moreover, its brakes are known to lack progression and feel spongy which doesn’t inspire confidence. Even the ABS calibration on the Xtreme works better than the RTR. Pillion riders will find the Xtreme’s raked seat a little harder to get onto compared to the RTR’s flatter single-piece unit. It’s also shorter which ends up feeling a bit cramped. Moreover, reaching out to the bike’s grab handles, which are positioned under the rear quarter panel, feels a bit unnatural and takes some time getting used to. The RTR’s seat is long enough to easily accommodate the rider and pillion without throwing a fit. It isn’t as sharply inclined as the Xtreme either which makes it a lot more comfortable. The grab handles are positioned more conventionally and have more surface area for better grip. So ultimately selecting one boils down on your priorities. You may compare all these bikes accordingly. Do take a test ride in order to get better clarity. Check out authorised dealership details.

Thanks Zigwheels author for the suggestions. Yes, I agree Royal Enfield is a good choice, had owned the old CI engined Electra 4S earlier. The maintenance part is the issue. Also, the cost is almost Rs2 Lakhs for new one. I will either go for RTR1604v or RE Classic 350. I had rode Apache RTR 180 for 11 years. Wonder, which one is better RTR 160 4v or RTR 180 2valve model?

TVS Apache 160 4V vs TVS Apache RTR 180

TVS Apache RTR 180 Price starts at Rs. 1.08 Lakh which is Rs. 955 costlier than base model of TVS Apache RTR 160 4V priced at Rs. 1.07 Lakh. The claimed mileage . In technical specifications, TVS Apache RTR 160 4V is powered by 159.7 cc engine , while TVS Apache RTR 180 is powered by 177.4 cc engine. TVS Apache RTR 160 4V is available in 3 different colours while TVS Apache RTR 180 comes with 4 colours. 52% users have chosen TVS Apache RTR 160 4V over TVS Apache RTR 180 in a survey being conducted on zigwheels.com.

TVS Apache 160 4V vs TVS Apache RTR 180 Comparison

Key Highlights	Apache RTR 160 4V	Apache RTR 180
Ex-Showroom Price	Rs. 1.07 Lakh	Rs. 1.08 Lakh
Fuel Type	Petrol	Petrol
Engine Displacement	159.7 cc	177.4 cc
Power	17.63 PS @ 9250 rpm	16.79 PS @ 8500 rpm

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TVS Apache 160 4V vs TVS Apache RTR 180 Summary

Basic Info	Apache RTR 160 4V Drum	Apache RTR 180 BS6
Ex-Showroom Price	Rs. 1.07 Lakh View On Road Price	Rs. 1.08 Lakh View On Road Price
Rating	4.1 (2021 Ratings)	4.2 (1112 Ratings)
Engine Type	SI, 4 stroke, Oil cooled	SI, 4 stroke, Oil cooled, Fuel injected
Max Power	17.63 PS @ 9250 rpm	16.79 PS @ 8500 rpm
Fuel Type	Petrol	Petrol
Colors	Apache RTR 160 4V Colors	Apache RTR 180 Colors
Brakes Front	Drum	Disc
Brakes Rear	Drum	Disc
Wheel Size	Front :-431.8 mm,Rear :-431.8 mm	Front :-431.8 mm,Rear :-431.8 mm
Wheels Type (Pressed Steel/ Alloy)	Alloy	Alloy
ABS	Single Channel	Single Channel
Starting	Self Start Only	Self Start Only
Speedometer	Digital	Digital
Insurance	Rs. 8,843 Apache RTR 160 4V Insurance	Rs. 9,053 Apache RTR 180 Insurance

Engine

Engine Type	SI, 4 stroke, Oil cooled	SI, 4 stroke, Oil cooled, Fuel injected
Engine Displacement	159.7 cc	177.4 cc
Max Power	17.63 PS @ 9250 rpm	16.79 PS @ 8500 rpm
Max Torque	14.73 Nm @ 7250 rpm	15.5 Nm @ 7000 rpm
Emission Type	bs6	bs6
Bore	62 mm	...
Stroke	52.9 mm	...
No Of Cylinders	1	1
Drive Type	Chain Drive	Chain Drive
Valve Per Cylinder	4	2
Fuel Type	Petrol	Petrol
Ignition	Mapped ignition system	...
Compression Ratio	10.0:1	9.5:1

Brakes

Brakes Front	Drum	Disc
Brakes Rear	Drum	Disc

Performance

Quarter Mile	20.40 s @ 98.91 kmph	...
Braking (60-0 kmph)	22.77m	...
Braking (80-0 kmph)	42.63m	...
Mileage (City)	54.78 kmpl	...
Mileage (Highway)	49.57 kmpl	...
Braking 60-0 km/h	22.77m	...

Suspension

Suspension-Front	Telescopic Forks	Telescopic Forks
Chassis	Double cradle Split Synchro Stiff Frame	Double Cradle Synchro STIFF
Suspension-Rear	Mono Shock	Monotube Inverted Gas-filled shox (MIG) with spring aid

Tyres

Tyre Size	Front :-90/90-17, Rear :-110/80-17	Front :-90/90-17, Rear :-110/80-17
Wheel Size	Front :-431.8 mm,Rear :-431.8 mm	Front :-431.8 mm,Rear :-431.8 mm
Tyre Type	Tubeless	Tubeless
Radial Tyre	...
Wheels Type (Pressed Steel/ Alloy)	Alloy	Alloy

Dimensions

LengthWidthHeight	20357901050 mm^3	20857301105 mm^3
Wheelbase	1357 mm	1326 mm
Length	2035 mm	2085 mm
Ground Clearance	180 mm	170 mm
Width	790 mm	730 mm
Fuel Capacity	12 Liters	12 Liters
Kerb Weight	145 Kg	141 Kg
Tail Light	LED	LED
Front Brake Diameter	...	270 mm
Rear Brake Diameter	130 mm	200 mm

Electricals

Battery Type	Maintenance Free	Maintenance Free
Pilot Lamps	LED Pilot Lamps
LED tail lights
Turn Signal Lamp	LED	Bulb

Features

ABS	Single Channel	Single Channel
Body Type	Sports Naked Bikes	Sports Naked Bikes
Body Graphics
Starting	Self Start Only	Self Start Only
Seat Type	Split	Single
Pass Switch
Speedometer	Digital	Digital
Tachometer	...	Analogue
Trip Meter	Digital	Digital
Average Fuel economy	...
Low Fuel Warning Lamp
Clock
Low Battery Indicator
Stepup Seat		...
Low Oil Indicator	...
Passenger Footrest
Cooling System	Oil Cooled	Oil Cooled
Console	Digital	Analogue and Digital
Odometer	Digital	Digital

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Apache RTR 180 Alternatives

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Cosmetically Updated 2019 TVS Apache RTR 180 Launched At Rs 84,578
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Q. Which bike is best among Apache rtr 180 and 160 4v?

I haven't ridden the Apache RTR 180, but, I own a 160 4V and I got to say this is perhaps the best option in this price range, considering the looks, performance, mileage and all. This machine has got an awesome stability and sticks to the road. You will never feel losing control of it even at 110+ kmph. Mileage is decent, considering the performance. Electricals could have been added but still it does well with what it's got. When it comes to braking, I have read in many reviews that its braking is not that crispy, but honestly I have never complained about the brakes. Well that's my opinion regarding the 4V. Hope it helps!
Both have minor differences between them in performance... although 160 4v looks more aggressive in looks...180 has a slightly higher numbers but 1604v doesn't vibrates even on higher speeds unlike the 180
See,Every Apache bikes are Best . In that You choose variant depends upon your choice and for your need...My choice is 160 4V, because Engine Breathing will be good , Look wise Stylish than 180. but 180 is also a Best Apache brotherhood

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4v 160

Q. Which is the best bike compared with Honda Hornet, TVS Apache RTR 160 4v, Yamaha FZ S 3.0 in mileage, pickup, comfort, price, service and spares?

If we compare Fi version of all bike then i think pickup of TVS Apache will be more, according to mileage 1st will be Hornet then Yamaha and then Apache but the difference will be only 4-5 kms.If we come to comfort i own Apache and i didnt find any problem with comfort, and for pricing you should contact dealers in the city.
Need comment on Suzuki introduer B6 vs Appache RTR160 4V for maintenance free spares avilable, comfort and safety. looking for my colleage going son. pl suggest
FZ-S Fi V3 for sure will give you the best mileage amongst these three. Riding comfort too unbeatable of FZ-S fi V3...

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Q. Which bike is better Apache RTR 200 4V or Apache RTR 160 4V

Obviously RTR 200 4V is better bike among these two because of reasons given below1.Styling :- RTR 160 4V is Downscaled Version of RTR 200 so looks are subjective this statement is not applicable here And if you will look in pictures RTR 160 4V will look equally good but in real life the difference is apparent in RTR 200 it looks wider and musculer and has splitted seats and gold coloured front forks which stands it out from the commuter crowd.2.Performance :- here also RTR 160 4V can't even stand a chance and there is no argument that RTR 200 4V is sportier bike and it is faster by a big margin whether it is acceleration or top speed RTR 200 will always ho faster and will give you more adrenaline rush.3.Mileage :- mileage is slightly better on RTR 160 4V but it is not a big difference, only 5 kmpl will be lesser on RTR 200 4V in normal riding condition RTR 200 4V gives a mileage of 37-40 and RTR 160 4V gives a mileage of 42-45 but if you are a hardcore rider and if you will ride your bike mostly on highways and if you will ride your bike on speeds like 100 and 110 then RTR 200 4V will give you more mileage because as a 160 cc bike it will be the top end for RTR 160 4V and as my friend told and as i have saw it on youtube milage goes down to 32-35 kmpl and for RTR 200 that speeds are normal because it is 200 cc bike and it is easier for a 200 cc engine to maintain 100 kmph constant speed and it will give normal mileage under these conditions4.handling :- Here also RTR 200 4V's Handling is better than RTR 160 4V's handling because RTR 160 4V has Wide Handlebar and RTR 200 4V has Clip on handlebar and clip on handlebars are known for their sporty handling so if you like cornering so much than RTR 200 is the perfect bike as it also offers you super stickey and grippy Pirelli tyres which are absent on RTR 160 4V5.Comfort :- here both bikes are eqaully good and you might think that RTR 200 4V has clipon handlebars so it will more aggressive and less comfortable but it is not the case because it's handlebars are raised Clip-Ons and they doesn't affect comfort and RTR 160 4V's Wide handlebars are also similar to other bikes in it's segment so both of them give you same comfort.6.Refinement and Vibrations :- if you are thinking that RTR 200 4V and RTR 160 4V are similiar to RTR 160 and RTR 180 than it is not the case both bikes are so much refined and they have very less vibrations which are present only in top end and in top end also vibes are very negligible.7.Features :- RTR 160 4V is very feature rich bike but it can't stand a chance against it's father RTR 200 4v which has more features than RTR 160 4V like Gear position indicator and better looking instrument cluster because of white backlight and it comes with slipper clutch which and it is first bike to have Slipper Clutch in it's segment and it is very rare in higher segments also and it is a very useful feature it is far better than normal clutch and both bikes have ABS on board but the ome on RTR 200 4V is Dual channel ABS so It is Functional on both the tyres front and real while RTR 160 have single channel ABS and it is only operational only on front tyre so if you will press rear brake suddenly then rear wheel will end up in locking and slipping.8.Verdict :- if you are on tight budget than RTR 160 4V makes sence but if budget is not concern and you can spend about 20 thousands more you can end up buying a better bike.Thanks
It depends on your budget nd mileage...Both the bikes are best sellers in their segments you will get slightly better mileage in 160 Fi abs than rtr 200 fi nd you have to pay slightly lesser for 160cc...Rtr 200 has an edge over 160 in terms of ART-Slipper clutch...both the bikes are almost similar you can't get wrong with any of the two so choose according to your need nd mileage.
If you r looking for little more power, 200 is for you but i think 200 doesnt have Kick start & i have seen people dragging the bikes without kick start option .

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