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Air Pollution: The sad state of Delhi

Air Pollution: The sad state of Delhi

Air Pollution: The s..

  • 15 Dec 2015, 7512 Views

JijoMalayil

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  • 15 Dec 2015, 4:20 pm ( 1 Photo )
Pollution levels are crossing all permissible bounds in Delhi for sometime now, with new studies pointing out to the pathetic state of city which averages a particulate matter(PMI) of 360 ppm, which is ten times to that of say Chennai, another metropolis.
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According to the World Health Organisation(WHO) 1.5 million people every year die of air pollution in India. In Delhi, poor quality of air causes irreversible lung damage to 22 lakh or 50 percent of all children.
The environmentalists' hue and cry regarding rising pollution levels are finally taken seriously by both the Judiciary and the Legislative alike with multiple suggestions emerging to reduce emissions and make the city more livable.
The first was the National Green Tribunal (NGT) order banning diesel and petrol vehicles older than 10 & 15 years respectively, heavy cess on Non-Delhi bound trucks crossing the capital at night to the recent Delhi Govt's odd-even number plate strategy (private cars with odd numbers and even numbers to be used on alternate days).
But I think these points should also be considered:
  1. Instead of banning vehicles altogether, stricter pollution check and certification will help in lowering emission. Defaulters should lose their fitness certificate for at least 3 months.
  2. Non-Delhi bound trucks, numbering thousands that cross the city should be diverted by building periphery roads outside the NCR. The plans for these roads have been lying in cold storage with very slow progress being made.
  3. The odd-even scheme of limiting vehicles is a welcome move and will definitely lower traffic & pollution during the peak office hours in the city. But the public transport system has to increase its capacity and improve on last mile connectivity if this is to succeed.
  4. Initiatives like E-bike taxis and electric car taxis should be initiated on a massive scale. Bicycles-for-rent and dedicated cycling lanes should improve last-mile-connectivity and encourage people to opt for public transport. Will that ever happen?
Vehicular pollution still consists of just 25% of what is causing the rise of particulate matter in Delhi. Construction dust, burning of fossil fuel by industries and burning agricultural waste are other major contributors in this process.
Authorities need to wake up! Stringent measures of treating industrial emissions, alternative to thermal power plants and builder regulations are the need of the hour. Let's do our part in getting our vehicles checked regularly, opting for public transport whenever possible and be a little vigilant towards potential violators.

Arjun

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  • 15 Dec 2015, 7:48 pm
The supreme court has now agreed to ban the registration all diesel vehicles over 2000cc.
This would cover most of the full sized SUVs, and also many luxury cars.
This would be a major blow to the luxury car segment as well as to Toyota, Tata and Mahindra as their cars are over 2000cc and Delhi is a huge market.
"People's life is at stake and you are interested in selling cars," Chief Justice of India TS Thakur said, slamming car dealers who argued against the National Green Tribunal order banning registration of diesel cars.
Last week, the tribunal directed that no new diesel vehicles will be registered in Delhi. The tribunal has also said that central and state government must stop buying diesel cars in Delhi. These will be interim steps till the next date of hearing on January 6, said the green court.
The court has also agreed to ban the entry of trucks more than 10 years old in the national capital region and the green tax for entering NCR would be increased.
In my opinion, these Blanket laws should not be the way to go. Instead, we should follow stricter emission norms, and make sure that ARAI forces manufacturers to follow them.
This would lead to manufacturers working hard, to reduce the emission levels. The engine capacity and fuel type should not be the criteria, but instead the emission levels should be checked and those above a particular level should be banned.
Source : NDTV

JijoMalayil

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  • 16 Dec 2015, 10:49 am
Exactly! Arjun Thorough enforcement of the above said suggestions, rather than putting a blanket ban on the sale of diesel vehicles looks like a sensible solution. Plus we as a society needs to be more conscious in reducing emissions in whatever little way possible.

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  • 16 Dec 2015, 11:17 am
see there are easier and quicker solutions to this problem. *Rant alert*
  • One of my friends autowallah commented that the pollution can be reduced siginificantly right away if they take strict action across Delhi on illegal/road side parking AND manage all major traffic junction better. I thoroughly agree with him, allow me to explain: My drive to my previous office was 35 Km and usually took me an hour BUT on holidays/restricted holidays/weekends it took me 35-45 mins; you see during those 15 mins saved not only is my engine NOT running but the rest of the journey also gives me a better mileage since it's at a constant speed in a higher gear
  • These guys don't have the resources to manage the traffic right now properly during peak hours, forget having the bandwidth to implement the rules
  • I seriously doubt the Environmental surcharge is being implemented on trucks entering Delhi
  • Why can't we move bikes to BS IV standards already?! I mean just coz they form majority of the population doesn't mean they should be exempted, in fact it should be done quicker for them coz it will provide better results as well
  • The Delhi-NCR public transport NCR is not spread out enough to reach all corners of NCR
  • During the Odd-even system implementation in Paris, the public transport system was free. Delhi public transport system is already struggling with the existing loads how can it manage the load during odd-even days let alone loads should it be made free

JijoMalayil

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  • 16 Dec 2015, 12:08 pm
  • The environment surcharge is being collected just fine, but i don't see a point in that, except if the money is being channelized for providing better public transportation systems.
  • BS IV for bikes should be implemented and existing bikes should be included in the odd-even number plate scheme.
  • Let's at least try out the odd-even system, let people car-pool or something. Plus with the phase-3 of metro being completed, things will improve i guess.
  • As the Delhi Govt don't control the police force in the capital, either large number of security officials should be hired or the law and order should come under Delhi Govt. just to enforce whatever laws that are being enacted.

JijoMalayil

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  • 17 Dec 2015, 11:48 am
Finally the Supreme Court steps in!
  • No registration of Diesel vehicles above the 2000 cc in NCR till 31st March 2016.
  • Non- Delhi bound goods vehicle banned from plying on the capital roads.
  • Environment cess to be doubled for commercial vehicles entering Delhi.
  • No goods vehicles registered before 2006 allowed entry into Delhi.
  • All Taxis to switch to CNG by March 31st 2016.
  • Govt. to vacuum clean roads and make pavements through out the city.
  • Construction works to adhere to pollution norms, otherwise face shutdown.
  • Solid waste not to be burned but to be disposed appropriately.

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  • 17 Dec 2015, 12:07 pm
Continuing on what JijoMalayil said, it is for us to see in the long term how these measures pan out. The surcharge that is being collected by NGT from commercial vehicles will indirectly increase the cost of goods coming into the city, and ultimately may cause inflated prices in the capital.
The alternative is to use public transport and that is NOT ideal for a lot of people. The problems with the current transport system are endless; Safety, Connectivity, Comfort etc. Until these problems are addressed, the chances of traffic condition becoming better remain bleak.
As Arjun mentioned about the ban on diesel engines above 2000cc, I think it should have simultaneously included a short-period subsidy on the handful of hybrid cars that we have access to. This would ideally give incentive for sales, and also help manage the supply-demand side of things, as the list of banned vehicles below includes some of the most popular cars.
Chevrolet Tavera, Captiva & Trailblazer
Ford Endeavour
Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
Hyundai Santa Fe
Mahindra Bolero, Scoropio, Xylo, XUV500 & Thar
Mahindra SsangYong Rexton
Tata Aria, Safari Storme, Sumo & Xenon
Toyota Innova, Fortuner, Land Cruiser Prado & Land Cruiser
All Audi's running the 3.0l & 4.2l engines (Q5, Q7, A7 & A8L)
All BMW's with the 3.0l (5 Series, X3 xDrive, X5, X6, 6 series & 7 series)
Jaguar XF & XJ L
The Land Rover stable is quite badly affected as most of their engines are above 2-litre;
Freelander 2, Discovery Sport, Range Rover Everoque, Discovery, Range Rover Sport & Range Rover Vogue
All of Mercedes Benz' models; A Class, B Class, C Class, CLA, GLA, E Class, GLE, CLS, GL, S Class
Volvo affected ranged includes the D5 range; XC60, S60 & S80
Porsche Cayenne, Macan S & the Panamera
Maserati Ghibli & Quattroporte
This ban has caused a stir among manufacturers and the question they all are asking is the long-term plans that our government has in relation to these cars. But as we all know about 'efficient' our governance is, its gonna be a while until further clarity is given.

Arjun

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  • 17 Dec 2015, 12:20 pm
The irony here is that the VW E189 series engines, which came under the radar for being polluting would be allowed to register.
This would include Jetta, A4, Octavia and Rapid.
The National Green Tribunal had issued a notice to the center over the sale of the VW group vehicles. This was done way before the odd even rule or other blanket bans, but it has now been ignored.

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  • 17 Dec 2015, 2:06 pm
Arjun That was exactly what we were discussing in the other VW thread as well.
And here's a note from SIAM. They are obviously disappointed with this ruling and there are some very pertinent points. Pasting the text of the SIAM release below:
SIAM Press Release
Auto Industry Pay the Price for Lack of Holistic Plan
The Automobile Industry appreciates the concern of the Hon’ble Supreme Court on the high levels of air pollution, specially particulate matter emissions in Delhi. The pollution issue in Delhi needs to be looked at holistically if the objective of improving the air quality is to be achieved, said SIAM. In light of this, the Hon’ble Supreme Court Order banning private diesel passenger vehicles and SUVs of 2000 cc engine capacity and above, is most unfortunate. While this would certainly hurt some segments of the automotive industry, it will not bring about any perceptible improvement in the air quality of Delhi. However, Auto Industry welcomes the Hon’ble Courts direction for controlling pollution from other sources which has been neglected for last couple of decades.
This order has been passed after totally ignoring the findings of the most summary of the recent study on source apportionment for NCT of Delhi shared with the Hon’ble Court, which mentions that the vehicles are responsible for only 20 % of the pollution in Delhi, out of which only 14-15% is attributable to passenger cars. This makes the overall pollution load of passenger cars a miniscule number of just 3%. Restricting sales of BS IV compliant vehicles will further delay the proportion of BS IV vehicles on the road, while older BS 1/2/3 vehicles would continue to ply. If reduction of pollution was the objective, the Hon’ble Court could have encouraged more BS IV vehicles to be sold and could have restricted use of older vehicles that pollute more, as one old vehicle emits emissions equivalent to five new vehicles. Hence, old vehicles entering from outside should also pay environmental compensation tax. Bringing in better technology to replace older technologies would have been more effective in meeting the challenge of pollution and air quality.
The Auto Industry is also concerned on the unavailability of a Comprehensive Action Plan for addressing the issue of Air Pollution in Delhi, this was stated by SIAM after the order was passed by the Hon’ble Supreme Court today. Way back in the year 2003, the Auto Fuel Policy had recommended several measures to address the issue of air pollution. Out of these, only handfuls of recommendations concerning the auto industry were implemented while no action was taken on the other causes of pollution. Single minded approach to address only the auto industry which is a soft target has resulted in high pollution continuing in Delhi, despite of auto industry moving rapidly to BS IV norms within a short period of 10 years – a feat not performed by any other country till date. It is distressing to note that lessons from the past have not been learnt.
Historical data shows that the pollution levels in Delhi always rise from September to December and always starts falling from January till August onwards, whether the number of vehicles increases or not. Therefore, taking any decision to ban a certain segment of vehicles based on rising pollution from September to December would not yield the desired result.
SIAM would suggest the following measures if pollution has to be effectively addressed:-
a) Complete the construction of bypasses in Delhi, which has been delayed for several years, so that the truck traffic not destined for Delhi could be effectively diverted.
b) Have accountability to ensure that burning of biomass and paddy fields is immediately stopped in and around NCR.
c) Employ dust collectors and vaccum cleaners to clean the dust on the road kerb-sides
d) Urgently lay down a policy for remove and scrappage of old and highly polluting vehicles off the road.
e) Constitute an Expert Committee consisting of all stakeholders to draw up an holistic action plan for short, medium and long term with quantifiable targets based upon data to ensure sustained air quality improvements.
New Delhi
16th December 2016

kaiserketkar

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  • 17 Dec 2015, 3:06 pm
One point made is quite pertinent...
older vehicles, particularly those not compliant with BSIV pollute way more than newer vehicles. This applies especially to all commercial vehicles, who additionally suffer from poor upkeep.
Clearly the PUC certification is not working either.
And remember, what is happening in Delhi can very well be enforced in Mumbai, Chennai, B'lore and other metros. You can't have an arbitrary regulation. A big-picture plan needs to be made and implemented.

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  • 24 Dec 2015, 12:46 pm
"Originally posted by Arjun"
The supreme court has now agreed to ban the registration all diesel vehicles over 2000cc.
This would cover most of the full sized SUVs, and also many luxury cars.
This would be a major blow to the luxury car segment as well as to Toyota, Tata and Mahindra as their cars are over 2000cc and Delhi is a huge market.
Here's a report from Autocar India on how Mahindra plans on beating the ban on diesel cars. http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-new...an-399286.aspx

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  • 24 Dec 2015, 1:41 pm
Regarding the odd-even number plate scheme, the Delhi government has finally reached a conclusion and it feels like a well thought decision. Only eight days are left for the odd/even countdown to begin and all seems to be on the right track. The decision to implement such a drastic rule was taken in order to reduce congestion on roads and pollution from vehicular emissions.
As per the notification issued by the government, there are about 20 categories of vehicles which are exempted from this rule. The categories which have attained a free pass from this are here forth mentioned:
  • Electric and hybrid vehicles.
  • All two wheelers.
  • Women and women travelling with a male child up to the age of eleven.
  • VVIPs except the Delhi Chief Minster.
  • Emergency vehicles, ambulances, fire, hospital, prison and enforcement vehicles.
  • Vehicles of paramilitary forces, Ministry of Defence, pilot and escort.
  • Vehicles of SPG protectees.
  • Vehicles bearing diplomatic corps registration number.
  • Those on way to a hospital for medical emergency should carry proof.
  • Vehicles of physically challenged.
  • All CNG vehicles, but they will have to display certificate.

I believe that exempting CNG vehicles from the list is a good move as it will promote people to make a shift towards CNG. There are a number of electric vehicles available in the global markets, India only has limited option. By limited option, I mean that there is only one electric car available in India. This move will encourage people to buy electric vehicles and manufactures to get cracking on producing more of them.
Even though it has not been made clear as to which kind of hybrids are not exempted, this is a welcome move. It will push the manufactures to produce more hybrid cars. This in turn just might reduce the price of hybrids which will generate more enthusiasm amongst the public to buy them. As two wheelers are still running under BS III emission norms, I see no reason as to why two wheelers are exempted from this rule.
Now let’s turn our attention towards VVIP s now. Apart from the Prime Minster and President, I believe that all other important personnel’s vehicles should play by this rule. If the Delhi CM can manage to abide by it then so can the others. Apart from all of these, flexible office timings within NCR will also help in reducing traffic on roads & public transport systems during peak hours.
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  • 24 Dec 2015, 2:08 pm
"Originally posted by JijoMalayil"
As per the notification issued by the government, there are about 20 categories of vehicles which are exempted from this rule. The categories which have attained a free pass from this are here forth mentioned:
  • Electric and hybrid vehicles.
  • All two wheelers.
  • Women and women travelling with a male child up to the age of eleven.
  • VVIPs except the Delhi Chief Minster.
  • Emergency vehicles, ambulances, fire, hospital, prison and enforcement vehicles.
  • Vehicles of paramilitary forces, Ministry of Defence, pilot and escort.
  • Vehicles of SPG protectees.
  • Vehicles bearing diplomatic corps registration number.
  • Those on way to a hospital for medical emergency should carry proof.
  • Vehicles of physically challenged.
  • All CNG vehicles, but they will have to display certificate.
* How do I prove that I'm on the way to a hospital for a medical emergency? Have a screaming patient in the car?
* Single women drivers are exempt - but wouldn't it have made more sense to exempt all cars that are carrying 4-5 passengers, including male passengers (full car, which means they are carpooling).
* If a woman has a male child older than 11 or if a woman wants to give two guys a lift, she can't.
* All two wheelers are exempt. So these two wheelers are BS1, BS2, BS 3. And there are still some old two strokes riding about. A BS3 two wheeler has more emissions than a BS4 car, I'm told. Don't have the exact figures.
I see this whole scheme as flawed. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for reducing pollution, but I seriously think we are approaching it the wrong way.

JijoMalayil

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  • 24 Dec 2015, 2:35 pm
But I think this is just the best way to reduce pollution levels & congestion in the city on an immediate basis. For somebody like me who relies completely on public means of transport, it is getting really difficult to survive in the city anymore. Few flaws have to be sorted out along the way, like what you have mentioned. But it is definitely worth a try! That said, long term plans should be subsequently conceptualized and implemented.

kaiserketkar

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  • 24 Dec 2015, 5:24 pm
"Originally posted by Roshun"

I see this whole scheme as flawed. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for reducing pollution, but I seriously think we are approaching it the wrong way.
True that.
There are so many grey areas that it'll serve as just another reason for cops to harrass, and since the targeted people are always going to be car owners... all the more! Myopic rule.
Knee jerk responses just don't work. Effective long term measures HAVE to be instituted.
Besides the odd-even rule, there's the >2000cc diesel car rule. Why cubic capacity and not emissions? Myopic, again.
So those that DO have BSIII SUVs will hold on to them instead of upgrading to less polluting BSIV ones. What purpose does that serve?
And then there's the hiking of the entry tax/pollution tax. Can the govt give any account of what the tax collected so far has been used for? Does a higher tax mean fewer trucks will come into the city? They'll just pass it on to the end consumer. Myopic, again & again!

EDIT:
came across one more gray area on fb: how are male doctors to travel on alternate days? hitch a ride with femal nurses?

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  • 29 Dec 2015, 10:52 am
Honestly the number of exceptions reminds me of the Indian quota distribution system.
How can they make this many exceptions and completely ignore car pooling. I mean 5 or 4 people travelling in a single car is literally reducing the footprint to 25% at the least, which in theory is lower than what your outcome will be from the odd even rule.

kaiserketkar

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  • 29 Dec 2015, 2:45 pm
"Originally posted by I Live For Speed"
Honestly the number of exceptions reminds me of the Indian quota distribution system.
How can they make this many exceptions and completely ignore car pooling. I mean 5 or 4 people travelling in a single car is literally reducing the footprint to 25% at the least, which in theory is lower than what your outcome will be from the odd even rule.

So true!
Ignoring [and consequently not promoting carpooling] is by far the stupidest mistake. And remember this is a concept that's riddled with stupidities.

kaiserketkar

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  • 30 Dec 2015, 12:12 pm
There you go! 15 days- 6% vehicles off the roads.... a fat lot of good that'll do!
Even if you give suitable leeway to journalistic overzealousness and push the figure up to 10%, that's still too less. Besides, I'm sure the traffic congestion that will be caused by a large number of cops trying to keep tabs of violators will make up for the pollution that might have been avoided.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/o.../1/558508.html

JijoMalayil

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  • 30 Dec 2015, 1:23 pm
Very interesting report. Bikes will have to be included in this scheme, and it will be. Stricter emission norms for older vehicles should ideally follow. One thing to be kept in mind is that this is a 15 day experiment! I hope all these glitches will be taken care of, and a more evolved system will be put in to place by the end of it.

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  • 30 Dec 2015, 2:58 pm
How I'd love to see the metro after the scheme is implemented...

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  • 30 Dec 2015, 3:02 pm ( 1 Photo )
I ran a simulation and it came out just fine. No issues at all.
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  • 4 Jan 2016, 5:29 pm
Taking a leaf out of Delhi, the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation too is planning on putting in place a system to regulate the number of cars on the road there. The word is that it might be similar to the odd-even rule in place in the national capital. The rule is likely to come in place in the next 3-6 months and will apply to all private vehicles including two-wheelers.

kaiserketkar

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  • 5 Jan 2016, 10:06 am
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NikilSJ , it would be nice to have a regulation on the number of cars in any city [even Pune is in a sad state], but it HAS to be part of a bigger plan. A plan that includes sprucing up public transportation, encouraging carpooling, incentivising non/ lesser polluting modes of transport [CNG, electric, etc], more stricter monitoring of emissions, and tackling other greater sources of pollution such as industries, generators, etc.
Just an odd even plan with no supporting infrastructure is like the ridiculous attempt of BRT they made in Pune. It just worsens the situation.

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  • 5 Jan 2016, 10:32 am
There are quite a few reasons why people prefer using their cars as compared to the public transport system ( I know I'll face flak for this but this is as honest as it gets)
1) People really need to start respecting public places, you can NOT spit/dump your garbage on your seat ( I think it's a matter of strict enforcement , look at the Delhi Metro it super clean compared to say the DTC buses and the same people who litter here suddenly become prim and proper abroad)
2) Personal hygiene : One of the reason I avoid travelling by public transport system is hygiene , it's incredibly pissing off when someone sitting/standing next to coughs or sneezes without covering their mouth
3) Planning: By the time the public transport system is up and running , the planned capacity becomes insufficient
4) Fleecing by autos/taxis: and I love Bombay for this exact reason, take a cab at 4 pm or 4 am , they will not charge you a rupee more than they should, Delhi auto/taxis on the other hand will take you for your last penny
5) insufficient spread/ Last mile connectivity
6)Metro Working hours : the metro is only available till 11:30 PM , I think this is another HUGE roadblock to the Delhi Night life and paired with (4) the reaosn people drink and drive
7) Quality of the buses: Save the new AC low floor buses ( which are again overcrowded since they are so few in number) Majority of the buses are a strict no for me (unless winters) coz I dont want to die of BO.

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  • 7 Jan 2016, 11:03 am ( 1 Photo )
Spotted this on the NH-8 yesterday.
This guy has the odd-even rule sorted for himself. I wonder what happens if and when he's caught.

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  • 7 Jan 2016, 4:40 pm
Rhythem Raswant There are so many trying various things to get around the rule. I spotted two cars today - even cars on an odd day - sporting large CNG stickers on their front windshields. However, in the boot there was no CNG cylinder in either of them, one was a Santro and the other a Wagon-R. Although in the above case, it could be that his number plate is broken and he's just put a bit of paper as a temporary fix.

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  • 8 Jan 2016, 10:31 am
I Live For Speed check this out!!

JijoMalayil

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  • 8 Jan 2016, 4:24 pm
The Delhi Govt. has expressed its desire to continue with the odd-even scheme citing the need to ease vehicular congestion in Delhi. The Govt. also put out the arguments saying the pollution levels have dropped considerably. This comes in response to the Delhi High Court asking the Delhi Govt. why the odd-even scheme should continue after the first week. The High court will take a final call on this matter on 11th of January. What do you guys think?

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  • 8 Jan 2016, 11:45 pm
It was an experiment, which went well. The air pollution levels were reduced. However, we need to understand that the schools were shut down during this period, and this made the school available to be used as public transport, other than reducing one portion of the traffic.
I think they should try it for another week,with the whole public, and see the results.
Also, the results should be checked by giving continuous uninterrupted electricity to find out dependence on generators and the amount of pollution caused by them.
If such a thing can bring pollution down, I think it should be temporarily implemented, by the time other things like better testing facilities, stricter emission norms and better usage of electric vehicles (like buses, rickshaws,etc) can be implemented.
I think this should be carried on till the air pollution levels come below the danger zone. In the end, health is more important than convenience.

Roshun

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  • 9 Jan 2016, 10:03 pm
I don't know what air pollution figures the government is quoting, but the app I have that takes data from all the monitoring stations directly says otherwise. Pollution levels in the past week have actually gone up! Today PM 2.5 levels at RK Puram monitoring station was 407 (safe level below 90). The only benefit has been reduced traffic congestion on the road. But although I've not had an issue (have both odd and even cars) it has inconvenienced a lot of people when in fact the main pollution sources are not really cars! Like you've rightly pointed out - diesel generators, trucks going through the city at night and road dust + construction dust is the main issue.

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  • 10 Jan 2016, 12:22 am
The scheme may not have cleaned up the air but hey, expecting any significant improvement was kind of naive to begin with. To give credit where it is due, this is one sure shot way of controlling congestion on the roads. Not everyone can buy multiple cars and a lot casual users will be pushed towards carpooling and public transport. I have been carpooling myself despite having three cars (all are even). It takes a bit of planning and coordination but it is really not much of an inconvenience, especially if I am not having to spend hours stuck in traffic.
Pollution levels were bound to go up with the nights getting a bit colder and some fog finally settling in. Improved AQI will need much more drastic measures, like shutting down construction or passage of ALL heavy vehicles for some time. Heavy vehicles are key as control on them will automatically throttle both construction work and industry. On a related note, something should be done about diesel locomotive engines. I was at Old Delhi railway station the other day and the air there was horrible to say the least.

JijoMalayil

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  • 12 Jan 2016, 2:48 pm
Maruti Ciaz & Ertiga SHVS Exempted from Odd-Even Rule. What happens to the other so called Mahindra "Micro-hybrids" ?
Check this out.
http://www.cardekho.com/india-car-ne...rule-17462.htm

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  • 13 Jan 2016, 1:25 pm ( 1 Photo )
Land Rover is set to introduce petrol powered variants of the models sold in India. According to Autocrat India, the Range Rover Evoque, Land rover Discover Sport, Discovery, Range Rover and Range Rover LWB are likely to get petrol motors under the hood. This move can be attributed to the temporary ban on all diesel-powered cars with a displacement over 2.0-litres.

image courtesy: indianautosblog.com
Currently, the Range Rover Sport, Range Rover Sport SVR and the Range Rover come with an option of a 5.0-litre V* supercharged engine in India. Now, the company is likely to introduce a 2.0-litre turbo petrol in the Evoque and Discovery Sport and a 3.0-litre supercharged V6 for the Range Rover and Land Rover Discovery.

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  • 18 Dec 2015, 1:11 pm
Every two years, thousands of car enthusiasts eagerly wait to catch just a glimpse of what the auto expo has to offer. Started in the year 1986, the Delhi auto expo is Asia’s largest, world’s second largest and is always a sight to behold. Held at Pragati Maidan & Greater Noida, the expo is usually a five day affair for general public.
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Apart from bringing an end to dreariness in one’s mundane day to day life, it provides auto enthusiasts and others likewise with an opportunity to explore the vast world of automobiles. Every possible existing auto manufacturer presents the flock of visitors with a view of their upcoming and at times soon to be launched automobiles. What auto expo does for a person is that it enables them with knowledge and insight of what the new vehicles are and as to when they will be launched.
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This in turn provides them with a chance to decide whether they want to try their hand at current market availabilities or to wait for new entries. What often renders the viewers breathless are the prototypes or concept cars unveiled at the expo. These prototypes manage to intricately weave a web of imagination, luxury and future in one singular creation. Most manufacturers often unveil their futuristic designs to a gasping audience.
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Big label makers like Lamborghini, BMW, Mercedes and Audi to name a few are amongst the large list of those who often devote a substantial amount of time, sweat and money in developing their concept cars. Sometimes it seems that they create seemingly ‘normal’ cars just to keep themselves afloat while their true love lies within creating futuristic supercars. For laymen like myself it’s not always possible to be part of auto expos which take place round the world. Hence it here where the Delhi expo comes in handy as global models of several automobiles are also unveiled at this platform. It provides the onlookers with an opportunity to come face to face with global models which would have been showcased at other overseas expo.
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The show has a wide variety of automobiles vis-à-vis a type meant for select few with a bag full of money or something which is affordable by the masses. It has something to offer to all, something to melt the hearts of every auto enthusiast and leave them awe struck.
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The first two days of the expo is reserved for press but the latter five are open to all, which means a heavy crowd shoveling past each other, struggling, swaying from one foot to another just so as to witness a car in its full glory. From the last edition of the expo, it has been split in two parts. The one held at Pragati Maidan is for car automobile components and accessories while the one held at India Expo Mart, Greater Noida is the automobiles itself.
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The splitting of the expo owes it all the massive turn up of the overtly enthusiastic car lovers and the constant growth of this crowd. To sum it all up, the Auto expo for a car enthusiast is what Disneyland is to a child.

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  • 18 Jan 2016, 3:00 pm ( 2 Photos )

Mahindra & Mahindra to counter diesel ban in Delhi NCR region with downsized 1.9 L MHawk engine
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With the Supreme Court’s decision on banning registration of diesel SUVs and cars with a capacity of 2000cc and above in Delhi NCR region set to stay for the time being, Mahindra & Mahindra is likely to launch the downsized version of the 2.2-litre mHawk diesel engine in the Scorpio and XUV500. It is expected that the power and torque figures won’t dip by much.
The 1.9-litre mHawk Scorpio prototype is said to been approved by the ARAI (Automotive Research Association Of India) and may reach dealerships in a couple of weeks. Sources say the XUV500 with the same motor is currently undergoing certification process. The 1.9-litre mHawk equipped SUVs are likely to be sold across the country too.
During the launch of the Mahindra KUV100, M&M’s executive director Pawan Goenka had said, ”We are certainly prepared for all eventualities. We are coming up with a petrol line-up, which will be made available over a period of time. This will be our defence over something like this.”

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  • 19 Feb 2016, 1:57 pm
Anant Geete, minister for heavy industries and public enterprises, recently said Volkswagen cars sold in India exceeded the permissible emission level by nine times. The minister said that the road transport ministry will take necessary steps and could even penalise VW for the violation. The violation was not found during testing at the factory, but while testing it on road, added Geete. He also claimed that the German car maker has accepted using a similar cheat device on the Indian models like the one used in the international models to manipulate the emissions test results. From where I stand, it looks like Volkswagen will take some time to recover and get out of this soup.

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  • 19 Feb 2016, 3:23 pm
After the ban on registration of diesel cars with a capacity of 2,000cc and above and the odd-even rule in Delhi, the Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation is likely to introduce a couple of proposals to reduce pollution and congestion in the Maximum City. A Comprehensive Mobility Plan has been prepared to this effect. Some of the proposals include:
  • Complete ban on registration of cars and bikes after a particular date
  • Ceiling on the number of new cars that can registered per year
  • Proof of parking space in housing society for approval of registration
  • Impose congestion tax in certain zones
The Comprehensive Mobility Plan will also encourage people to use public transport in Mumbai. There’s also a plan to build 34 dedicated lanes for buses in the city to increase frequency. Roads may also get a makeover under the plan. The current proposal is to widen around 700km of roads in the city and construction of 19 flyovers, 29 rail overbridges, six elevated roads and cycling tracks around the city. The project is likely to cost the Maharashtra government around Rs 1.55 lakh crore.

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  • 18 Apr 2016, 11:35 am
Check out this Hindustan Times report, Odd-even vehicle system to be implemented on Manali-Leh highway. The frequent traffic jams in the Manali to Koksar has prompted the authorities to introduce this scheme from today. On odd dates, vehicles would be allowed from Manali side towards Lahaul Spiti while on even dates, vehicles would be allowed from Lahaul Spiti side towards Manali till the end of this month.
People off to Leh this summer, please take notice!

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  • 18 Apr 2016, 11:53 am
JijoMalayil I have never been on the Manali-Leh road, but I've seen images of the traffic jams online and from other sources. I think it is a good move but the only problem is that tourists will now have to stay back for an extra day or so to return. Certainly going to boost tourism there I'm sure.

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  • 18 Apr 2016, 12:20 pm
"Originally posted by NikilSJ"
JijoMalayil I have never been on the Manali-Leh road, but I've seen images of the traffic jams online and from other sources. I think it is a good move but the only problem is that tourists will now have to stay back for an extra day or so to return. Certainly going to boost tourism there I'm sure.

Yes, indirectly this may be helpful for the tourism industry there, as the trip duration for many tourists may increase and that would help the accommodation and food service providers in the area. This would also dissuade many to use their private cars there and they would resort to Taxi services which may be exempted from the rule if its in the similar lines as the Delhi rule. I don't think it is a major inconvenience, and as the people are already going there on a holiday or vacation, this would not be a major inconvenience for them.

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  • 18 Apr 2016, 2:55 pm
Rohtang pass has gone thru so many random "measures" to deongest and depollute it, that it isn't even funny anymore.
-If I remember correctly, in 2014, they had started this timing restriction: 6am to 11am cars can go up Rohtang from Manali, and 11am till evening vehicles will be allowed to come down. Ofcourse there was the standard set of exemtions, including those coming from and going to Leh.
-Then last year, the NGT allowed a fixed number of vehicles on the pass [I think it was a thousand a day], and then there was news of a complete ban of vehicles going up the pass, except those heading to Ladakh. How they managed to implement that is beyond me. There was also this pollution tax charged to all diesel vehicles.
... and now this year, you report that travel will be permitted either way on alternate days.
Uncontrolled tourism is the basic underlying problem. Same as what happened in the Kedarnath flash floods. There can be such a thing as sustained development/ tourism, especially in a land as sensitive as the Himalayas, but everyone is after profits, never mind the cost. And we still haven't learned anything from the Kedarnath floods.
I have been stuck in a jam on Rohtang for hours together as far back as 2009. So steps need to be taken desperately for decongestion, but a proper organized effort is needed instead of a new rule every year.

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  • 21 Sep 2016, 11:31 am
In order to reduce the alarming levels of air pollution in major cities across India, the government has now made it mandatory to randomly test at least half of the cars produced from a manufacturer’s plant. This move comes in the backdrop of implementing the BS VI emission norms in India by April 2020.
Quoting the notification “At least 50 percent of vehicle models produced from a particular plant shall be selected randomly from dealer’s location or warehouse,” said the Ministry of Road Transport and Highways in a recent notification.
The World over it is observed that the vehicles send for pollution testing in a controlled environment emit fewer pollutants than the same on the road. That's how Volkswagen was able to 'cheat' the tests! What are your thoughts on this?

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  • 21 Sep 2016, 2:25 pm
JijoMalayil
This is a good move. However, this does not curb how VW was able to cheat. Every car that came with the E189 engine had the cheat code.
That means that even if a car is randomly picked and tested it would pass. If the testing is going to happen in a stationary car or on a dyno, it will be detected by the cheat module and the engine would change inputs to avoid failing the test.
The only way to find the real values are to drive the car with the test equipment mounted in real world conditions. However, its unclear if such tests are going to be done. If such a test is not done for random cars, the VW Diesel gate like idea would still succeed to fool the system.
This however would be a deterrent against corruption. Instead of giving control to one agency, here multiple agencies would be involved and we can expect better results m

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  • 7 Oct 2016, 9:38 am
A new study has discovered a link between air pollution and road accidents. The study done by Grantham Research institute on Climate change and Environment at the London School of Economics and Political science found that Air pollution maybe responsible for a number of road accidents every year.
The research found that the toxic air reduced driver fitness which leads to accidents.
It was noticed that one microgramme per cubic meter increase in the concentration of NO2 leads to 2% increase in road accidents.
Other than reduced driver fitness, watery eyes and itchy nose were also deemed as distractions for motorists.Even though the affects of air pollution are well known, this is the first study done to understand the impact on road safety.
Although the study has been done in the United Kingdom, it may very well be applicable in other congested cities around the world. The same can be observed in most of the major cities in India where we have big records for both pollution and road accidents.
Source:
http://auto.ndtv.com/news/id-1471142...&category=News

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  • 7 Oct 2016, 11:13 am
"Originally posted by Arjun"
A new study has discovered a link between air pollution and road accidents. The study done by Grantham Research institute on Climate change and Environment at the London School of Economics and Political science found that Air pollution maybe responsible for a number of road accidents every year. The research found that the toxic air reduced driver fitness which leads to accidents. It was noticed that one microgramme per cubic meter increase in the concentration of NO2 leads to 2% increase in road accidents. Other than reduced driver fitness, watery eyes and itchy nose were also deemed as distractions for motorists.Even though the affects of air pollution are well known, this is the first study done to understand the impact on road safety. Although the study has been done in the United Kingdom, it may very well be applicable in other congested cities around the world. The same can be observed in most of the major cities in India where we have big records for both pollution and road accidents. Source: http://auto.ndtv.com/news/id-1471142...&category=News

I was just going through a newspaper report mentioning the number of four-wheeler road accidents and casualties related to it in Delhi . Delhi being one of the most polluted cities in the world, it actually makes sense! Till July 1st, 2016, Delhi has witnessed 1896 accidents and 327 people were killed. The more shocking part is out of 250 number of prosecutions launched by Delhi police, have resulted in only four convictions. And as a whole 970 people have been killed in road accidents this year in Delhi. Really alarming for such a small city, don't you think?

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  • 21 Oct 2016, 12:42 pm
Sunita Narain on behalf of the Supreme Court appointed pollution control watchdog - Environment Protection Control Authority (EPCA) is reported to have a suggestion to the central government last Wednesday (19th October) that vehicle manufactures should stop selling vehicles that are BS-III complaint from next April.
Automobile manufacturers and the government have voiced their concerns regarding the sudden change in policy by stating that it would cause chaos. As per the road transport ministry’s earlier notification, no manufacturer is allowed to produce vehicles that are not BS-IV compliant from April 2017. But this does not mean that the manufacturers cannot sell BS-III compliant cars that were already produced before April.
A representative from SIAM has said that such a sudden change in policy will lead to manufacturers incurring a huge loss.

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  • 24 Nov 2016, 12:16 pm
While Toyota unveiled their next-generation Prius in New Delhi yesterday, the Japanese manufacturer also showcased their commitment to safety through technology and education and creating a clean and sustainable future through environment-friendly technologies. At the event, Toyota Kirloskar Motors said they are a ‘Problem Solving Company’ which will aid in solving the problems faced in the country in terms of safety and environmental pollution.
Toyota Kirloskar Motors launched their brand new initiative called the ‘Toyota Caravan’ which aims are reducing road deaths and curbing pollution. With 11 percent of global accidental deaths happening in India, it is not hard to see why.
Toyota says they will introduce integrated safety features in their cars which include Panoramic View Monitor, Back Guide Monitor, Intelligent Parking Assist, Intelligent Clearance Sonar, Radar Cruise Control, Lane Keeping Assist, Adaptive Lighting System, Blind Spot Monitors, Lane Departure Alert, Night View and various other features. It, however, remains to be seen how many models in their product range are likely to get all of these features.
What is commendable is that Toyota was the first manufacturer in the country to introduce Driver and Passenger Airbags as standard on their vehicles back in the year 2014. The company also made ABS standard this year which resulted in the Etios receiving a 4-star Global NCAP crash rating. The manufacturer has also set up Safety Eduction Programmes in various schools across the country that impart knowledge on road safety and awareness.
Toyota is also aiming at being one of the most environmentally sustainable manufacturers across the world. With the ‘Toyota Environmental Challenge 2050’, the manufacturer aims at reducing CO2 emissions by 90% by 2050. Toyota says they are on the right path as they have already sold over 9 million Hybrid Vehicles across the world which has resulted in the conservation of 25 million kilometres of fuel over the years - that is the equivalent of going to the Sun and back 3,400 times! Now that’s an interesting fact.
Toyota Kirloskar Motors is already a pioneer in manufacturing strong hybrid cars in India. The Camry Hybrid is made locally at Toyota’s plant at Bengaluru. The Camry Hybrid returns a claimed fuel efficiency of 19.16 kilometres per litre.

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  • 6 Jan 2018, 11:06 am
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