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Hyundai i20 Diesel: First Drive!

Photography: Abhishek Nigam    9 July 2009

Hyundai i20 Diesel: First Drive!

Where the diesel stands

  More in this Article
 Page 1 : Most anticipated launch of the year!
 Page 2 :  The Drive

Compare it to other diesel powered hatchbacks - namely the Suzuki Swift DDiS, Tata Indica Vista, Skoda Fabia and the Fiat Punto and instantly the Hyundai i20 seems to offer more value. It looks great, is spacious enough to fit in a family of five, handles precisely, is very driveable and now performs well too. It may seem a tad expensive at first glance with a Rs 6.2 lakh price tag for the Magna and Rs 6.8 lakh for the Asta (ex-showroom Delhi), but considering the equipment it comes with as standard, it actually is very good value for money. The i20 now offers the widest range of options for customers to choose from - right from petrol and diesel engines to cubic capacities to manual and automatic gearboxes. The Suzuki Swift now seems to be under great threat with the advent of the i20 Diesel and if that wasn't enough Hyundai has launched the 1.4 Gamma petrol i20 as well. Watch out for the complete road test of the i20 Diesel soon on ZigWheels.
 
 

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User's Comments
  • rahul kamboj (03 March 2010 09:11)
    hi.. i have petrol version of i 20..it rocks.. good interiors ,, good engine .but lack in power..mileage of 16 on highway..electronic steering makes drive more comfortable.. no car in this range hav elctronic engine.. so go for it,, its lenght is of 4 m which just near a sedan.... very spacious ,, | Reply
  • vicky (19 February 2010 12:56)
    I recently test drove the Maruti Ritz with my family and found it to be simply awesome.I really like the way the interiors has been styled. The dual tone dash board looks cool and quality is very impressive as well. | Reply
  • alex (09 February 2010 16:49)
    i20 may be gud in interiors ..but never go abve swift in drivin plsre n power..the take off power of swift vxi...is much much and very much better than i20...and more pick up at low speeds..gud for city use too...swift vxi got 87.5 bhp engine to push it..far better than a i20 can do... | Reply
 rahul kamboj (03 March 2010 09:15) Reply to alex
wat u hav to do in take off power or pick up ,, are u going to race on indiann roads... power is not an issue,,, i 20 is best car... swift is very common car so no use of buying it... | Reply
  • Raj (23 January 2010 02:46)
    To all beggars who think i20 is overpriced, go buy nano... Or travel by auto... you shud not even look at i20..To all Fiat touts, go and ask Fiat to use some better interiors to achieve a minimum sales figure... Also ask them to learn about some after sales service from Maruti and Hyundai.. | Reply
  • Harry (22 January 2010 18:36)
    Sorry one last point..The i20 is overpriced. | Reply
  • Harry (22 January 2010 18:33)
    Last weekend I test drove the i20 (diesel) and Maruti Swift and Ritz (both Diesels) and during the week I have test driven the Indica Vista and Punto diesel. To me the Punto is the best option as an all round package. The Swiftis not too far behind. There is not much between the Vista and i20. To me, the heart of a car is the engine and here is where the i20 lacks. Either it is underpowered or the gear ratios are not quite right. It feels as if the body is too heavy for the tiny engine (we were 4 adults in the car when we did the test drive.)and the suspension is very similar to the Getz which as you all know is not the best. The Punto is what I have put my money on. | Reply
  • Hemant (21 November 2009 02:30)
    I am able to see akash good points after going through coments below. Others also seem trying to promote their products. I am not fan of anyone. I only hate TATA (personal). Otherwise I will choose i20 diesel If I had money(comfort,quality,features,riding,service).next Ritz diesel(price, comfort,quality, riding, features, service). next punto(price,comfort,quality,riding,features), next indica Vista(price,features,service) All of above have latest improved disel engines. This is my choice may not be ur's. | Reply
  • Jeeshan (05 October 2009 18:39)
    I20 is good no doubt about it, but please slash the prices.. | Reply
  • Edmund (24 September 2009 10:56)
    Zigwheels, please have a moderator. This is the first time I am seeing such childish behaviour. I have often visited your site and watched your television shows. This kind of behaviour by people should not be tolerated. | Reply
  • AK ASSS (16 September 2009 09:43)
    Hah... look who's talking about dignity..... Arnt u ashamed of ur self Akash.... atleast you should have sm self respect.... | Reply
  • AKASH (05 September 2009 23:43)
    @TALWAR, I am just back to say something to you. I know you have written comments using my name and spoiled my dignity. Don't do this to anybody in future. All the best. Goodbye | Reply
  • AKASH (04 September 2009 15:20)
    Well, I have been gone for 2 days and I see that there are comments in my name made by somebody else! My last comment was “AKASH (02 September 2009 17:25:49)” This is downright obnoxious. I am leaving this forum. Have fun Amitej, KK, Saba etc. Maybe it was too much to expect a decent debate from you all. I should have known better! Goodbye! | Reply
  • AKASH (04 September 2009 14:35)
    Hi RAVI SINGH, so sad you do not understand the greatness of blue and me. Also it seems people with Korean connections either love it or hate it. Like Akash's dad works for hyundai and he loves it. But, I dislike Korean products even after my sister married a Korean man. Because I know. no use of emotion, Korean is bad. Suzuki and Fiat are best. | Reply
  • AKASH (04 September 2009 12:15)
    @TALWAR, I am not a Hyundai agent. My father is working for Hyundai. Hyundai is in my blood. So Hyundai is better than Suzuki, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, VW etc. | Reply
  • ravi Singh (04 September 2009 11:59)
    I am not able to understand why you people making so much hue and cry for Blue | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (04 September 2009 00:04)
    Well KK you are absolutely right. BLUE and ME is not availible even on BMW or MERC. Having it on a Hyundai will be the biggest miracle for the company and people to believe. Other people dont talk much about it as they are unaware or dont know how to use it....... | Reply
 Shitiz (20 October 2009 15:05) Reply to Amitej Singh
Yeah pretty true!! This Korean Technology is a hit only in INDIA and is not doing that great world wide, whereas FIAT is renowned for it's technology worldwide. | Reply
  • K K Talwar (03 September 2009 04:31)
    Well Blue and Me is not available in Mercedes also. Fiat Punto is the best. Fiat 500 is also great because it too has blue and me. Mercedes and BMW will take many years for this technology. What is Hyundai? Hah! If you are agent of Hyundai, I am agent of Fiat - even with a Korean bro-in-law. | Reply
  • Aka h (02 September 2009 19:03)
    Akash your parent would have felt sorry rather.... huh.... stop being childish, talk like a grownup... | Reply
  • K K Talwar (02 September 2009 18:01)
    whoever write about I20, who are agent of Hyundai, The quality | Reply
  • AKASH (02 September 2009 17:25)
    @ AMITEJ: Honda Jazz and Fabia doesn't have 6 air bags. I would rather be safe than sorry. | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (02 September 2009 17:07)
    Dear Akash since you couldnt find a superior feature in i20 other than the FIAT 500 so just for the sake of argument you are taking space into account. Then what about the HONDA JAZZ and FABIA. i20 has less than half of the space of JAZZ and JAZZ also has 5 star crash ratings,airbags ABS and EBD. But you are scared of the price as you were in case of FIAT 500. Wake up dear........ | Reply
  • AKASH (02 September 2009 16:52)
    @ AMITEJ : FIAT 500 does not have space and it is a 2 door. It is not as spacious as i20. Quality is as good. And I don't care about the price - I would have bought the 500 if it had 4 doors and was bit bigger. | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (02 September 2009 15:40)
    My dear Akash ever since you are an NRI you are totally unaware that FIAT 500 is availible in India which has got even more features than listed by you.It has even got BLUE and ME feature which HYUNDAI cant make in the next decade.Kindly go through your sources properly. | Reply
  • Ravi Singh (02 September 2009 11:29)
    Hey,its good we dont boast a single feature and compare individually,my point is only that i found i20 high in driveablity,interior,most advanced engine,wider wheels,braking system and offcourse unbeaten safety feature( i test drive all available hatchbacks).But all these comes for a price.i could have gone for sedans like Ford ikon,Fiesta,ascent,Dzire,Aveo,Sx4 which some may would have cost me even lessor.Now its only a week i have been driving this car,let 1st service be done so that i can take it for a spin( not rev. over 2500 rpm yet) and get back with its performance . | Reply
  • AKASH (02 September 2009 01:31)
    @ AMITEJ: which other car has all the following features together in one car? 6 air bags, NCAP 5 star rating, ABS with EBD, refirgerated glove compartment, Music System with 6 speakers | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (02 September 2009 00:09)
    Well Ravi Singh congrats for buying such an expensive and overrated car, just tell me one thing is i20 such a big performance vehicle or the HONDA CITY/PUNTO or THE SWIFT that you are asking for a rear disc brake.I cant even trust it without trying it out how it works as it is a hyundai. Get over wat is written in reviews and drive and let everybody know how it handles(for it is such a high performer). If all such is there then Mr RAVI please tell everybody that which other firm in India apart FIAT has the BLUE and ME Feature. i20 doesnt have it nor does Maruti or the JAZZ. It means that nobody should buy i20 as it lacks such a premium feature which none of the manufacturers have especially HYUNDAI. If it has got do let us kmow in THIS GEM OF A CAR | Reply
  • Ravi singh (01 September 2009 21:50)
    hi all,why?so fuss about these:swift,punto,vista,fabia.there is no comparison of these with an i20.i recently bought crdi asta,it is a marvel,much much ahead of all these.having features one wont find even in honda city(rear disc brake,size of glove box to name few)it is excellent in driving and braking is far better than even some of sedans.i will definetly give more feedback after some long drive of this gem of the car. | Reply
  • AKASH (01 September 2009 21:23)
    KUMAR, Suzuki is zero in US. Their products are like Chinese products. Use and throw objects. | Reply
  • ayas (01 September 2009 17:47)
    i think it is good | Reply
  • K K Talwar (01 September 2009 16:03)
    Mr.Amitej, We should go with Quality with stability, The Fiat, The Toyota | Reply
  • K K Talwar (01 September 2009 13:43)
    The korean is brother in law of Mr.SAba | Reply
  • KUMAR (01 September 2009 13:07)
    dear napster, do not go by akash's words. he is a die hard hyundai fan. i am telling you, hyundai diesel engine is being made by detroit diesel. I work for detroit diesel, they make truck engines on th eoutside but take secret contracts from car makers to make their diesel engines. hyundai is korean, how can they ever have the technology? even suzuki being japanese buys from fiat. it is a big lie. don't believe hyundai or akash who could be hyundai employee... | Reply
  • napster (01 September 2009 00:52)
    okkayyyy kumar.. thanks a lot for lettin us in on d big secret ;) lol | Reply
  • KUMAR (31 August 2009 21:06)
    Detroiit Diesel is making diesel engines for HyundaI I20. It is a top secret. Hyundai pay them to not disclose. Also they make truck engine only outwardly. In secret they make engine for car makers for huge fees! It is big secret. | Reply
  • Saba (31 August 2009 20:10)
    Korean products are cheap. But some of them are good like Samsung, LG. Moreover, the Hyundai in India in Indian made not Korean. Also the Punto is Indian made not European. So it is basically about Indian products. BTW Talwar, you must really hate the Korean bro-in-law? | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (31 August 2009 16:48)
    So KK Talwar, shouldn't you be supporting Korea and Hyundai then? | Reply
  • K K Talwar (31 August 2009 13:27)
    I have no any sister in korea, may be my father been in korea, i donot know, Any body tell me where is my sister, who is married in korea | Reply
  • Update (30 August 2009 22:54)
    Uff... Akash agau=in I pity on you for your silly language.... "Thanks but no Thanks"..... it seems you are a pimpled teenager, fighting emotionally with everyone who takes your **s | Reply
  • AKASH  (30 August 2009 08:49)
    Korean products may be useless, but they are good cars than Japanaese. Hyundai will beat Honda and Toyote in US. Maruti couldn't even sell a single product | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (29 August 2009 22:37)
    Well I totally agree with KK Talwar.Korean products are hopeless and Hyundai is no exception.Punto on the other hand is way ahead of the i20 except pricing.Any buyers of i20 shouldnt go just on the figures the bhp or cc. Kindly TEST DRIVE this vehicle and witness its poor handling. FOLKS there are many other parameters other than AFTER SALES or RESALE VALUE. Also what will be the resale value when the naximum warranty offered on i20 is 2 years | Reply
  • K K Talwar (29 August 2009 12:34)
    I donot like Hyundai's products due to korean products | Reply
  • AKASH (28 August 2009 18:56)
    @ DEEP : Thanks but no thanks. You may keep your "pity" to yourself. Don't have to resort to pitying and all... c'mon smile... you will get over it! | Reply
  • AKASH (28 August 2009 17:24)
    @ KUMAR: I advise you to keep your overactive imagination in check. Detroit Diesel only makes large capacity truck engines and not passenger car engines. The lowest power engine they make is a 190 Horsepower truck engine!!!! Are you guys resorting to creativity to discredit Hyundai now? I thought you believed in Maruti Suzuki enough to come up with some valid points. Guess I was wrong! | Reply
  • AKASH  (28 August 2009 17:18)
    @ AMITEJ (26 August 2009 20:07:32) : Stop using terms like "grumpy" and "silly" for me and come up with some valid counter-points. Unlike others I stick to my stand - hence all the pages will show that I am giving valid points on Hyundai i20 superior quality over Suzuki Swift. If you disagree, tell me why instead of calling me names??? Who is being childish here??? | Reply
  • AKASH (28 August 2009 17:13)
    @ SAM (26 August 2009 18:40:10) : Yes I do consider Quality over Value for Money! I will buy Quality and you will buy Value for Money. I don't see any issues there. So what's all the fuss about? | Reply
  • DEEP (28 August 2009 16:41)
    Akash I pity on you... | Reply
  • K K Talwar (28 August 2009 15:06)
    Mr.Aakash, so nice of you but very late | Reply
  • AKASH (27 August 2009 23:48)
    I am apologize for my unprofessional attitude. I was little bit restless. I will think before writing any more comments. Again sorry if anybody is hurt due to my comments. Buy best car available based on TD and reviews | Reply
  • AKASH (27 August 2009 17:20)
    @ KUMAR: Detroit Diesel only makes Truck and Heavy Vehicle engines and not car engines. Please spare us your overactive imagination! @ SAM : I am not showing my attitude - I am debating which is a better car not which car is easier on the pocket - different parameters. You seem to be the sorts that go for Value for Money. Then be my guest - go for the maruti. I am only concerned about quality. period. @ AMITEJ : again you have no solid counter point in favour of my argument. You only have adjectives for me like "grumpy" and "silly". Tell me why Suzuki is better quality than Hyundai with facts and figures. Else you can shut up. @ MINI: Arrogant. Me?? I have consistently provided valid points but all Saba and Amitej have to say are personal remarks against me! NO ONE has one solitary valid point why Suzuki is better Quality than Hyundai - they simply harp on the “value for money” | Reply
  • Kumar (27 August 2009 14:56)
    I cant understand why Hyundai is calling the i20 diesel engine its own, when they have outsourced it from US based 'Detroit Diesel'. Only Hyundai ppl can think of this cheap publicity unlike other car makers. | Reply
  • Mini (27 August 2009 08:23)
    All, let us discard Akash's arrogant articles. It seems he is childish. Buy Hyundai or Maruti or other company cars based on reviews from various websites. Swift is an established car. I20 is also a good car, but yet to prove in the roads. If anybody wants Swift diesel with airbags, they can buy Swift Dzire ZDI. This is a forum for cars available in India. We are not discussing about the quality of Maruti/Hyundia cars exported to Europe or other countries. | Reply
  • Saba (26 August 2009 22:42)
    I Second Amitej and Sam.... | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (26 August 2009 20:07)
    Mr AKASH why do you behave like a GRUMPY OLD MAN. You simply lose your cool if somebody says against HYUNDAI.Also do you own both vehicles- the SWIFT and or the i20? that you everytime BLAST OUT SUZUKI SWIFT and always promote HYUNDAI.....I think you are only making a fool of yourself by giving these silly lectures incessantly.For you there is only one auto firm -HYUNDAI. It is evident from all the pages in the forum that nobody is there in support of your views. If there exists, there would be only the HYUNDAI company people. | Reply
  • sam (26 August 2009 18:40)
    @AKASH (24 August 2009 17:03:38) This not a place to show your atitude or arrogance, if you feel you can buy a ferrari you go and buy but dont put your comments in this discussion. Volks Wagan means peoples car it could be polo or golf both are good cars in therir segments. I dont know whos is good betn Suzuki or Hyndai, but at the end i will say buy a car which will be good for your pocket and less in maintainence. | Reply
  • K K Talwar (26 August 2009 13:57)
    Mr.HHH, The auto car India is Advertisement Company; we are not employee of Hyundai | Reply
  • HHH (25 August 2009 23:53)
    punto isnt really dat gud.. drivingwise -yes.. good handling! (i test drove punto n i20) n exteriors not bad but interiors are pretty pathetic.. overall i really prefer d i20.. luks classy...drives well.. overall gr8 package.. btw.. check out autocarindia latest ed.. dey've compared all d hatchbaks in full detail ..interiors exteriors comfort driving space safety etc etc n apparently i20 wins hands down.... dey've put i20 as "their choice" its a really gud comparison esp if ur serious on buyin one from i20 swift punto n d others in this segment.. | Reply
  • K K Talwar (25 August 2009 13:04)
    The Punto diesel version is better than I20, Look wise, Performence wise, every where you can compare, after that you will say the Punto is better than I20 | Reply
  • DD (25 August 2009 09:12)
    Akash who are you to decide who will join the discussion and who won't. Just write ur comments and ward off..... | Reply
  • AKASH (24 August 2009 17:03)
    @ Vijay: Yes, the Swift diesel is a brilliant car to drive. With its fuel economy and at the price - it is excellent value. However, "Value for Money" was not what I was harping on. I was harping on the "Better Car" not the "Cheaper Car". The Swift has poor build quality and has no safety features (which is a must for such a high performance car). The i20 comes with 6 air bags, ABS, EBD and EURO NCAP Rating of 5 Stars for both passenger and pedestrian safety! Yes it costs a lot more than the Swift. Yes, Swift is a Cheaper car and Sells more due to that fact. But how in the world can you say Swift is a Better car??? If price is the only concern of yours than this discussion is not for you to join! | Reply
  • vijay (23 August 2009 02:07)
    We have to consider efficiency, cost, maintenance, features before comparing cars. By considering all these factors In Indian perspective Swift Diesel is the best Diesel Car. Its foolish to compare i20 with swift diesel. As there is lot of difference in cost, efficiency and features. | Reply
  • Sudhakaran M (22 August 2009 16:27)
    If you could compromise on quality of panels ,interiors and ride quality then Suzuki swift is for you. But one looks for overall GOOD Build quality then i20 is much better than Swift. | Reply
  • AKASH (22 August 2009 13:05)
    @ PAL : read all the 5 pages of comments to understand what I am talking about and if you believe Suzuki is a better car maker than Hyundai - God help your intelligence and common sense! | Reply
  • AKASH (22 August 2009 13:04)
    @ Amitej Singh: Just to give you a better view of my perspective - I don't consider Hyundai to be the best automobile in the world but I rightly consider it to be way ahead of Suzuki. By the way the VW Polo is a poor man's Golf. I consider the VW Golf GTI version to be the best hatch in the world! See, I am not biased and I am better informed about the world of automobiles than you sir. | Reply
  • PAL (21 August 2009 21:46)
    Akash you are a hopeless person and truly biased, without having any knowledge of other brands except hyundai you are simply wasting others time by writing this crap.You just know a 7 letter word 'HYUNDAI'. | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (21 August 2009 19:54)
    Well Akash aka Mr KNOW ALL it seems that your knowledge is limited till the HYUNDAI BRAND. First you started comparing i20 with Swift and now you are comparing or rather rating POOR MAN's SWIFT(HYUNDAI i10) better than the SWIFT. This clearly indicates that you are no more than a Hyundai fanatic who is just jealous at the sales and the technological advancements achieved by other firms. Tomorrow when the VW POLO comes even then you will stick with the same old i20 or even i10. I regard you as a DIE HARD Hyundai Fan and not the one having knowledge about Automobiles or firms in particular. So better is to get back to basics before moving further. I especially thank you for the news update about sales/exports of i10 or i20 but you couldn't manage to tell me about the variant/ trim which is being exported. Wake up my dear............ | Reply
  • AKASH (21 August 2009 14:14)
    Amitej Singh : It is the best known fact that Hyundai is exporting both the i10 and i20 to the UK and rest of Europe. If this seems like news to you than I am sorry to say you probably are dozing away. Please move your lazy fingers and check all the news sources (both European and Indian) easily available on the net. Since you do expect spoonfeeding just type "Made in India’ Hyundai i10 had sets a new record with fastest 100,000 unit of export to 98 countries". See, even the Indian i10 is way ahead of the Indian Swift! I do not inderstand your blabber on the base models. I am talking about Swift Top model and i20 Top model. The Swift pales in comparison there. You are merely trying to mix up multiple incoherent ideas into the discussion. Swift VXi Vs. i20 Asta (O). | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (21 August 2009 11:05)
    If you were not talking about the base model of i20, then why were you talking about the exports of this car. Well then how can you classify Hyundai to be more superior/safer than the Maruti Swift.Hyundai have also gone for a cost cutting measure by making base model of i20 cheap. This clearly shows they are not bothered about the safety of indian custumers. Also kindly let us all know from your Secret Sources that which model/ trim level Hyundai is exporting.. Before making allegations on other firms,deep analysis is required as self made tales hold no good | Reply
  • AKASH (21 August 2009 00:34)
    Mr Amitej Singh, who was talking about the base models? See, if it is the cheapest car you prefer than we should not be in a discussion as I am only discussing quality in top models (not base models). Also, why do I need to research Rajangaon when I had seen and tested the end product itself. Go to the Tata-Fiat dealer and check for the yawning panel gaps on the dash, especially around the steering column. i am sure the Rajangaon facility is a modern one, but the cost cutting clearly shows ... | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (20 August 2009 21:01)
    Mr Akash, it would be very kiddish to say that FIAT is not concerned about quality. Well my dear you are again and again talking about the exports of i20. I want that you must mention which version of i20 is being exported since all the versions HAVE NOT Achieved 5 STAR EURO NCAP crash Test.Even the base model of i20 is quite cheap and competitively priced.Also shell out some useful time of yours ,if you can by viewing the article about TATA FIAT Ranjangaon plant facility, which would end your quality issues about FIAT INDIA | Reply
  • AKASH (20 August 2009 13:07)
    Dear Amitej Singh: Yes, I have test driven the punto when I was back in India for my annual leave. The 1.3 MJD belongs to Fiat (agreed) but the tuning has left a lot to be desired. The Indian Punto crawls at 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear. Nothing serious but, if you have driven the Swift DDis you will miss the turbo that kicks in at 1800-2000 rpm. BTW I am not a fast driver and I can live with this - but the already dark interiors with its panel gaps (check around the steering column makes me feel Fiat India is not serious about quality even though it has managed an awesome price-range. I would prefer a Fiat Punto any day over a Swift - but I would prefer an i20 over a Punto. Why? because in terms of quality, the EU exported i20 is miles ahead of the cost cutting Indian Punto. That is me but again if you have a budget limit and can leave without some niggles, than Punto beats the Swift and Indica by lightyears. | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (20 August 2009 09:26)
    Well Akash now you seem to have a prejudice over TATA-FIAT.It seems you havent test driven PUNTO.So how can you comment about the engine. This 1.3 MJD was especially made for PUNTO in 2003.For your information, before the performance index do check the tyre sizes of all cars which affect performance for your knowledge.Why dont you comment on the SHAKY handling of i20? | Reply
  • AKASH (20 August 2009 04:30)
    Dear Amitej Singh, I do not follow auto company sponsored magazine reviews... I follow genuine car buyer reports... Team BHP is non sponsored online forum (NOT magazine) that has gained the respect of Indian Car manufacturers - nowadays they are called for test drive reviews. Anyways, yes the Italian Punto rocks, but go to the showroom and check the Indian made one... there are panel gaps in the dashboard and the door handles have been reported to have come off (with photos), the tata after sales guys don't even know how to service palios - I guess they will treat the punto like a step child and finally the same 1.3 Fiat engine which is so great on the Swift disappoints in the Punto. Why? Because it is a heavier car as well as the tuning has been done to be BS 4 compliant. Also the dark black interiors gives it a claustrophobic feel! But like I said before, if you cannot afford a i20 diesel - the punto is a great Value for Money ALTHOUGH of highly questionable quality. | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (19 August 2009 23:54)
    @Akash:Well your fake reports are limited upto Swift or the Vista.Talking about Punto's ill fitting is a mere stupidity.PUNTO is a TRUE ITALIAN and ROCK HARD EUROPEAN car.Mr Akash kindly browse other magazines also and not only Team BHP. What does WHATCAR say | Reply
  • AKASH (19 August 2009 17:31)
    @ Mr. AKKI : Before you listen to the likes of Amitej Singh go to the "Team BHP" car owner forums that list know issues with Vista, Punto and Swift. Yes, Swift has a long list of issues too... during rain it leaks and floods inside! The Punto has ill-fitted body panels and the door handle came off a display car! The Vista's issue list runs into many pages! DON't listen to me or Amitej Singh - just do your own research! | Reply
  • Amitej Singh (19 August 2009 16:09)
    Well Mr Akki kindly do not det disguised in the advice of Akash,who is a die hard Hyundai fan. i20 may be good on looks or interiors, but is way behind in terms of handling and built quality.If interior space is your criteria then do consider Vista or Punto which have same engines as Vdi | Reply
  • AKASH (19 August 2009 15:45)
    @ VIVEK : The sales numbers DO NOT tell the story. More sales means a product is cheaper and NOT better. How can you equate Sales with Quality? Maruti 800 sales more than Merc A Class. Which is a better car? C'mon, you are missing the point! I was arguing which is a BETTER car NOT which is a BETTER SELLING car! Do you get my drift now? I concede that Maruti Swift VDi will sell more than Hyundai i20 Diesel but I do not concede that Swift is a Better Car than i20 ! IS my stand clear to you NOW? | Reply
  • AKASH (19 August 2009 15:40)
    @ AKKI : depends on how much cash you have. Swift VDi is an unbeatable value for money. Whereas, i20 Diesel is quite expensive but comes with unbeatable quality package. If you have cash limit and do not bother about the type of fuel (less than 1000 Km per month) - then I suggest you should go for i20 Asta petrol version which is just Rs. 50,000 more than the Swift VDi and has 6 air bags, alloys, ABS, EBD, stearing mounted remote, long wheel base and space, largest boot in its class, high class interiors, electric mirrors, refrigerated glove box, etc.... | Reply
  • vivek (19 August 2009 13:26)
    hey guys don't fight, just look at the sales numbers, its always Maruti that scores more So why do you think people going for Maruti!!, the sales numbers says everything. | Reply
  • Akki (19 August 2009 11:50)
    i want to buy a new car and i am a bit confused between i20 diesel and swift vdi....i20 scores over vdi on looks,finish,interiors...but lacks in engine and value for money....as i20 has not got a stable market and customers like swift, i fear it might not get discontinued from market like "GETZ".So,help me in getting a best car. | Reply
  • prashant patil (18 August 2009 21:06)
    i brought new hyundai i20crdi asta fully loaded 3 weeks before..........i observed that no doubt it had great speed touching 150 km eazilly.it has also have no engine sound of diesel engine as other cars. It also had nice leg room n good avarage(i got 16km/ltr with A.C.).But loophole of this car is Price n deep clutch. Well with considering big price i satisfied with this car very much. Anyone can fall in love with this car after having test drive once. | Reply
  • AKASH (18 August 2009 21:03)
    @ RR : If that is not the topic then what do you think we all have been discussing since the last 5 pages??? And what has the topic got to do with English??? At least take the trouble to scroll back and see the origin of this discussion before you air your lazy opinions! The article is on i20 diesel but the discussion has been about Hyundai Vs. Maruti since last one month. | Reply
  • RR (17 August 2009 17:41)
    Akash I thought you knew english well, but i was wrong. Where the hell is it written in the above article that the topic is Hyundai vs Suzuki. Mr. Akash (NRI) how did you manage to pass english language test. Now we are well aware of your occupation, you dont need to flaunt it. Ha.... Why the hell are you embarrassing yourself, or is it that daily you fight with someone(wife) and burst out you anger on this forum. | Reply
  • AKASH (17 August 2009 17:38)
    @ Amitej Singh : The tone and vocabulary in your comment clearly indicates that you have NOT test driven the i20 but have a clear prejudice against Hyundai. Oh let’s not get into the build quality, Amitej. Look at feedback from Suzuki Swift owners - the car leaks during rain, rattles after 2 months and about the interiors it is lesser said the better. The Tata Indica has malfunctioning power windows, door handles coming off etc. Whereas the very i20 that you get in India is EXPORTED to Europe. What you get is European fit, finish and equipment (The i20 Asta has 6 air bags, ABS, EBD, more space because of a longer wheel base, high quality interior plastic and fit, alloys, power windows, rear wiper/demister, etc). You may say i20 is expensive but you will be a fool to complain about the build quality. The "Korean is crap" mentality is so 1980s! But since you still have it... it’s your problem not mine! | Reply
  • K K Talwar (17 August 2009 17:16)
    Mr.Akash My opinion mentioned in previous mail. I donot have spare time, | Reply
  • joel zink (17 August 2009 16:33)
    Hyundai! vs Suzuki! vs Honda! I enjoy reading your posts. It reminnds me of the GM vs Ford vs Chrysler discussions of my youth. (I just turned 60.) | Reply
  • AKASH (17 August 2009 16:01)
    @ K K Talwar: What I do with my time is none of Your business. However, if you do wish to engage in a discussion with me - STAY on the Topic. Hyundai Vs Maruti IS the topic, NOT my occupation. | Reply
  • K K TALWAR (17 August 2009 14:17)
    Mr.Akash, I think you don’t have any other work because you have given suggestion to any body, which didn’t needy suggestion from your endoplasm, pls, done your own work. It is my own suggestion. | Reply
  • AKASH (16 August 2009 13:13)
    @ Mini : Please take the trouble to scroll down a bit, all the offensive language is from th elikes of KK Talwar and his cronies Saba and Praveen. I beg you not to slot me with them! KK Talwar said "Mr.Akash is belong to Mad family (Pagal)". Whereas he insulted my family, I merely responded on his poor English. Then KK Talwar responds by saying lowly remarks as "stop barking like doggy." and "Blediphool". I have at the most commented on their lack of proficiency in English but they have continued to insult me and my family. So Mini, DO NOT slot me with the likes of them! Understood? | Reply
  • Mini (15 August 2009 22:23)
    Akash and others, talk about the cars. No personal attacks. Be a matured human beings. | Reply
  • AKASH (14 August 2009 14:46)
    @ RAVI: Here goes, Suzuki Swift is cheaper than the Hyundai i20. But other than that, it is an extremely inferior car in every other aspect. Want to try and discuss the same - the others have failed miserably and resorted to demeaning me. I hope you are man enough... | Reply
  • AKASH (14 August 2009 14:43)
    @ KK Talwar : What makes you think I will degrade myself down to the level of giving you my number and chatting with you on the phone? Not that I shall understand anything if you continue to speak in your incomprehensible language on the phone! | Reply
  • RAVI (14 August 2009 10:14)
    Hey guys nice to see the difference of opinion on the language rather than the car !!! You well aware both are not from India. Seeing This guy talking about the language is making a point --- is he from India or and NRI (Non required Indian). P.S : LETS DISCUSS THE CARS | Reply
  • AKASH (13 August 2009 17:40)
    @ KK Talwar : Please keep on commenting as I have a hearty laugh at your comical expressions! I am beginning to enjoy your atrocious grammer and vocabulary! | Reply
  • AKASH (13 August 2009 14:18)
    DEAR WELLWISHER : Before you wrongfully accuse me of disrespecting others please READ the comments that I was referring to! KK Talwar said "Mr.Akash is belong to Mad family (Pagal)". Whereas he insulted my family, I merely responded on his poor English. Instead of reprimanding him, you are reprimanding me. You have it all upside down, sir! | Reply
  • Wellwisher (12 August 2009 11:59)
    @ AKASH: Hi, firstly, your enthusiasm is welcome however there is no need to disrespect other readers. A debate about cars is fine, but please refrain from using cuss words, or direct references to one's background or education. This is a site for car enthusiasts and not everyone has to have the exact same viewpoint. If you believe that Hyundai is better than Suzuki-so be it, but others are entitled to believe otherwise-that is what enthusiasm is all about...for the longest time people have debated Mercedes vs BMW, Lamborghini vs Ferrari, Toyota vs Honda....so Hyundai vs Suzuki is a fair debate....lets keep it that way and not insult one another. | Reply
  • AKASH (12 August 2009 00:14)
    @ Anonymous: It is KK Talwar (with incoherent english) and Praveen/Saba (Suzuki Fanboys) that are embarassing themselves by trying to demean me. I dared them to debate me and this all they have to say for themselves. However, I am not the one to take nonsense and keep quiet. You don't like it then stay out of my way or debate with me WITHOUT calling me a Hyundai employee and nonsense like that. | Reply
  • Smart Rider (11 August 2009 22:05)
    Simply superb car.Pros : 1) Amazing acceleration2) I didn't find any lag of a Diesel engine, its just like a petrol car.3) u will love to drive this car.4) Superb build quality5) Superb interiors6) excellent boot space7) Excellent wheel base(even greater than Verna)8) Stylish carCons:1) Lack of LegRoom : There is more legRoom compared to other hatchBacks but the Low level seating will make you feel like there is not enough leg room. Ofcourse when height of the seat decreases by 1inch the leg room requirement will increase by almost 2inch. 2) Clutch pedal is going deep into the well.3) The lid of the Glove box when opened rests on the co-drivers leg. | Reply
  • Anonymous (11 August 2009 20:52)
    Akash this is not your personal forum. Stop embarrasing yourself. If you want to debate like this on an auto forum, then i think its time for you to open one of your own. Atleast respect the forum if not yourself in fromt of others, it might be difficult for you, but then be topic specific rather than fighting with others unnecessarily. Next time if you want to comment personally then please ask for email IDs or phone numbers, do not make this forum dirty with your nonsense and unethical language. Mind it. | Reply
  • AKASH (11 August 2009 18:33)
    @ K K TALWAR : Stop embarrassing yourself with your nonsensically hideous English sentences. You are not making any sense, no grammer, no construction. I admit I do not know what a crime "analysist" is (very poor spelling) and I do not want to "argue with on round the table" (very poor sentence construction). And I love the new words you use which I have never heard like "Huse", "menners" and "broadminding"... wow that was some school that you must have gone to! | Reply
  • k k talwar (11 August 2009 14:55)
    Mr.Akash, I am a crime analysist educated person, You can do arguments with me on round the table | Reply
  • K K talwar (11 August 2009 14:25)
    Mr.Akash Huse talking is not certificate of Qualifications as well as Passions, Stability, Menners, Broad minding | Reply
  • K K TALWAR (11 August 2009 12:02)
    My think is that Mr.Akash is belong to Mad family (Pagal) who does argument with every body | Reply
  • Praveen (11 August 2009 05:53)
    Akash who are you to give anyone any attention. Don't unnecessarily boast. If you dont want to reply then keep your mouth shut. Let others post their commetns. | Reply
  • AKASH (10 August 2009 14:10)
    @ PRAVEEN: I could not find a single valid point in your post except for your mindless ranting. You don't seem to deserve my attention! give me a Point if you have any self respect left in you... or carry on ranting like an old hag! | Reply
  • AKASH (10 August 2009 14:06)
    Sorry, my previous post was for SABA - @ SABA : Not a single point from except for "Akash-Bashing". No point means you are either unable to debate or unaware of the term. I am NOT looking down at resident Indians, but I AM looking down on Suzuki who is taking you for a ride. Am I THAT bad in making my points clear? I shall converse with you TILL you provide me with a good point that says Maruti Suzuki is better than Hyundai. Till then, you shall not have the honour of an online exchange with me. Goodbye! | Reply
  • AKASH (10 August 2009 14:02)
    @ PRAVEEN: Not a single point from except for "Akash-Bashing". No point means you are either unable to debate or unaware of the term. I am NOT looking down at resident Indians, but I AM looking down on Suzuki who is taking you for a ride. Am I THAT bad in making my points clear? I shall converse with you TILL you provide me with a good point that says Maruti Suzuki is better than Hyundai. Till then, you shall not have the honour of an online exchange with me. Goodbye! | Reply
  • Rajan Viswanathan (10 August 2009 13:41)
    what the hell is wrong with Akash, Saba and the likes? Is Maruti or Hyundai paying anyone of you? Talk specifics ofr technical details, and do not share your emotional frustrations!! This is where people look for some authentic tech information. Both are good cars in their own right!!I used to own a Hyundai Getz which was a wonderful car, technically and interior, feature wise far more superior than Suzuki, but now I drive a Swift Dzire, i love the engine, but the interior featurers, glove space leaves much to be desired. | Reply
  • Praveen (10 August 2009 10:53)
    Akash why are you again and again copy pasting the same comments. It seems as if you have no other points to share with. You yourself look like a pimpled teenager who thinks emotionally and is not ready to accept the true facts even if the whole world says. Keep it up, soon you will become the most loyal customer of zigwheels too as all the day you surf hyundai forums like a true fanboy. Go and do some productive work in Europe (i.e if you actually stay there, though i dont think so). | Reply
  • Saba (10 August 2009 10:42)
    Akash its better for you as well as others if he topic. Atleast we would be spared from your nonsense comments. if you say that you are staying in europe then then stop talking about India, as you have set a typical NRI type mentality which says 'You Indians'. So be where you are, and stop blabbering about your so called "GOOD POINTS" as none of them can change anyone's point of view toward the crap i20. You are again and again repeating a word 'Pimpled Teenager', it seems as if you are one as whole day you dont have any work to do except surfing websites and posting your absolute nonses=nse comments which are emotionally biased. Grow up akash, atleast respect this forum.I told you before also, get your R | Reply
  • AKASH (09 August 2009 03:16)
    @ PRAVEEN again: before you use words like "dare" with me, please link my comments to YOUR comments that I was responding to! You said "Hyundai i20 is a direct copy of Toyota Yaris". I responded by saying that the i20 has NO cues from Yaris whatsoever but it does have design cues (that means it is a design copy) from the SLK and 1Series. I DID NOT compare i20 with the SLK and 1 Series. Your short attention span leads me to believe you are still in college. Because an adult would follow-up on the previous comment. READ my comments carefully before you DARE to respond to me you child. You don't have respect for others, atleast have some for yourself, it will save you from embarrassing yourself! | Reply
  • AKASH (09 August 2009 02:51)
    @ SABA: Pls stop talking off the point. Next time I shall not respond if you are off the topic. So for the last time read this carefully - at the end the sales numbers DO NOT tell the story. That is where you and I differ. More sales means a product is cheaper and NOT better. How can you equates Sales with Quality? Maruti 800 sales more than Merc A Class. Which is a better car? C'mon, you are missing the point! I was arguing which is a BETTER car NOT which is a BETTER SELLING car! Do you get my drift now? I concede that Maruti Swift VDi will sell more than Hyundai i20 Diesel but I do not concede that Swift is a Better Car than i20 ! IS my stand clear to you NOW? | Reply
  • AKASH (09 August 2009 02:47)
    @ PRAVEEN : I have been in Europe for the last 2 years... so i mean it when I say I have a Yaris standing below my apartment. @ SABA: so I am definitely not a Hyundai India employee... now you will say that I am a Hyundai Europe employee... BOTH of you are pimpled teenagers who know nothing about cars... please spare me your nonsensical drivel about me being a Hyundai employee... COME UP with good points. 1) DETROIT MOTORS point was a bogus 2) Value for money was something I was not talking about... COME ON YOU .. you guys can come up with better points... | Reply
  • Saba (09 August 2009 00:29)
    Akash one thing is clear from all your arguments that you are an Hyundai employee. People their is no point arguing with a person who has only one thing in mind i.e. to downgrade swift. Akash knows that swift is a direct competition to i20 and not many people are liking or rather purchasing i20. So he is following negative marketing technique to woo swift buyers and wants to change their mind.Akash get it straight that people are not fool, they know what is better for them and that show from the monthly sales no. of Hyundai as well as suzuki, which is actually more than thrice that of hyundai domestically. And dont even dare to compare your i20 with the cars that have changed the meaning of luxury. 20 cars can be bought for the price of one BMW. I know that job market is not good now a days, but you cant show your boss that you are doing this type of marketing for i20 to save your job. | Reply
  • Praveen (09 August 2009 00:14)
    Akash the very fact that you have yaris standing below your building is testament to the fact that you are simply trolling. I am sure you haven't even seen it once and you are unnecessarily arguing about that. What enjoyment do you derive from this? I didnt even mention about Swift and you concluded it to be a cramp tin. Dont even compare i20 with merc or BMW. Its an insult of those luxury cars. By any means you want to show that Hyundai is best and Suzuki is worst and you can go any extent for this. Be practical, if this would have been the case then Suzuki ppl would have shut their shops. Dont write anything emotionally, use some common sense also (that is if you have one). | Reply
  • Sheebha (08 August 2009 22:43)
    Hyundai gives great cars and performance....but with slightly less mileage. those who have purchased Hyundai generally love the car but never open their mouth regarding mileage. | Reply
  • K K TALWAR (08 August 2009 16:11)
    All guys linten to me, I am expert of deisel version, I found The Punto is better than I20, you can compare every where like Shape wise, Quality wise, Performance wise | Reply
  • AKASH (08 August 2009 15:41)
    @ ANURAG : wait a second - Value For Money does not equate Quality! My argument has been on Quality NOT on VFM. Why do I have to keep repeating myself? In the international scene Hyundai cars are VFM compared to Toyota and BMW because they offer QUALITY at a cheaper price... but Suzuki merely offers cheaper price! India IS an exception because Suzuki was fortunate to strike a deal with Sanjay Gandhi to form Maruti Suzuki. It has a decade long headstart over its rivals. Suzuki was fortunate in India and India is a different market compared to Europe and America. Here VFM sales NOT quality. | Reply
  • AKASH  (08 August 2009 15:27)
    @ SABA: at the end the numbers DO NOT tell the story. That is where you and I differ. More sales means a product is cheaper and NOT better. How can you equates Sales with Quality? Maruti 800 sales more than Merc A Class. Which is a better car? C'mon, you are missing the point! I was arguing which is a BETTER car NOT which is a BETTER SELLING car! Do you get my drift now? I concede that Maruti Swift VDi will sell more than Hyundai i20 Diesel but I do not concede that Swift is a Better Car than i20 ! IS my stand clear to you NOW? | Reply
  • AKASH (08 August 2009 15:21)
    @ PRAVEEN, have you ever seen a Yaris in your entire life? Maybe you need to change your glasses, there is a red Yaris standing below my building and it is a good deal shorter and definitely does not have any design cues of the i20. I agree that the i20 does have cues from the Merc SLK (bonnet) and the BMW 1 series (rear sides). But the holistic design is unique and spacious, unlike your cramped tin can of a Swift! | Reply
  • anurag (07 August 2009 23:47)
    Akash, I have no doubts whatsoever that you are belong to hyundai. Otherwise u wouldn't be so defensive and would not be picking 1 out of 5 points to reply. Hyundai doesn't have its own diesel engine thats a fact. It can retain a good market shares till the time there is a recession, you should go and check ur 1-0-1 Econ, which sayz people buy inferior stuffs in the times of recession. OK here is one good news for you btw Hyundai has climbed to World rank 4 which confirms the above belief. I am not from suzuki but i am atleast sure about what suzuki and hyundai are offering, take my word maruti suzuki offers better products even with their old technologies, atleast in mass segment. Last but not the least on your accusation of indian consumers being a blind eyed, you would be amazed to know the Indians are the most value conscious consumers where very few MNCs are able to compete with local players value and quality. India might be only place on earth where Hyundai is not able to compete on cost where Tata and suzuki beat them hands down.....worldwide it remains one of the cheapest brand....... infact Hyundai takes pride in the fact that its a cost-leader amongst all Manufacturer. | Reply
  • Saba (07 August 2009 23:25)
    Akash your mere anticipation will not work here, go and check with Detroit guys, if you seriously want the answer. Or for that matter just check how many and what capacity engines Detriot Diesel makes. I've already had my cookie and now nothing is lef for you my dear. Akash you are a die hard fan of Hyundai, you eat hyundai, drink hyundai and sleep hyundai. No matter how many counter points anyone gived u keep ur mind static. In the end numbers matter, tell me how many i20's have been sold so far and out of those how many are diesel ones. its been around 3-4 weeks since diesel i20 has been launched and i hav just seen 1 diesel car on road.Open your mind and open ur eyes too. | Reply
  • Saba (07 August 2009 23:12)
    Akash your mere anticipation will not work here, go and check with Detroit guys, if you seriously want the answer. Or for that matter just check how many and what capacity engines Detriot Diesel makes. I've already had my cookie and now nothing is lef for you my dear. Akash you are a die hard fan of Hyundai, you eat hyundai, drink hyundai and sleep hyundai. No matter how many counter points anyone gived u keep ur mind static. In the end numbers matter, tell me how many i20's have been sold so far and out of those how many are diesel ones. its been around 3-4 weeks since diesel i20 has been launched and i hav just seen 1 diesel car on road.Open your mind and open ur eyes too. | Reply
  • praveen (07 August 2009 23:01)
    Ya... Just like Hyundai i20 is a direct copy of Toyota Yaris... Hyundai ppl has copying in its genes.... | Reply
  • AKASH (07 August 2009 17:10)
    DEAR ANURAG: Wait a second. The Reputation Institute's survey says Maruti is ahead of BMW and Daimler! It is merely a user perception survey. We in India worship Maruti and we have a billion plus population - enough to leave its mark on this survey. However this survey does not pretend to say that Maruti makes better cars than Daimler Benz or BMW. It merely states what perception guys like you have! And I must say this reveals that we Indians are blind hero-worshippers - from cricketers to bollywood stars to maruti! BE OBJECTIVE for ONCE in YOUR LIFE! An intelligent argument cannot be made on the basis of emotion! | Reply
  • AKASH (07 August 2009 17:04)
    DEAREST PRASAD NAMBIAR: Why are you comparing Hyundai with Toyota? I was talking about Hyundai Vs. Suzuki ! Toyota is way ahead of Hyundai in International market. But, Hyundai in turn is way ahead of Suzuki (which has the scantiest respect in the global auto industry). Why are you bringing Toyota into the picture??? Can't you Maruti-Suzuki Fan Boys stay on the topic without meandering around? Give me ONE good point that says Maruti is better than Hyundai. I don't want to hear about anything else. | Reply
  • anurag (07 August 2009 15:06)
    @ Akash and Hyundai Fans.Well have gone through almost your ranting about why one should go for i20 and not Swift and how Hyundai is a global brand and all that. Some of them are true, some not, Let see howa) if having safety and performance is the criteria someone would obviously go for Honda Jazz which seems a better car than i20. or if plush interiors are considered probably an SRV is a better choice. So high price being justified can not be true argumentb) If international reputation is considered then probably you should go through Reputation institue's ranking where maruti is rated really really high. there is no point throwing additional money on a brand which was synonymous with a cheap car until a few month back, atleast in US.c) If Diesel is the criteria then no one is better value for money than Tata Indica and with 1.3 SDE GM/Fiat engine probably Hyundai doesn't stand a chance.d) all said and done even hyundai guys understand how much better value is offered by Maruti, what with good understanding of indian customer and a damn good service network.e) premium HB cars , well u would customer has upgraded to a premium HB segment of 5-8 lakh segment, obviously it suits ur marketing mindset, the fact is Auto Companies are yet to learn from their mistakes, Take SRV and Fabia as cases and u would understand why. You obviously live somewhere skimpy blocked lane of Mumbai or Banglore where its not possible to drive a sedan and have way to much money to splurge. Normal Indian customer thinks a 4.5 lakh for Diesel HB is too much a price. Letme tell u.... if i20 sells more than 10K diesel PA....well u win.... ppl watch out for sales figure of i20... huhhave fun. | Reply
  • AKASH (07 August 2009 14:51)
    Dearest SABA: Where do you come up with all this? Maruti dealerships’ rumour-mongering? I wanted you to prove it and you drop the name of Detroit Diesel whose smallest engine is a 350 Horsepower one. They build engines for Trucks! Stop embarrassing yourself! Here have a cookie and go home... | Reply
  • K iva (06 August 2009 18:11)
    There is nop doubt that Hyundai i20 diesel is a better car overall than Swift or Ritz. But it is priced over Rs. 1.5 lakhs more. Even assuming that Maruti has lowered the price by Rs. 50,000 for Swift/Ritz diesel, Hyundai has fixed their price atleast Rs. 50,000 up even after giving Rs. 50,000 weightage for the plus points of i20 diesel. I am sure, Hyundai may have to reduce the price if i20 diesel in an year's time by atleast Rs. 50,000. Ritz is a good car but the back is not looking nice. | Reply
  • Saba (06 August 2009 14:31)
    @Akash: Look who's talking about hallucination. Ok Akash for your information only, Hyundai Diesel engines have been outsourced from Detroit Diesels (Michigan) and VM Motori (Italy). Detroit Diesel bought VM Motori and DaimlerChrysler bought Detroit Diesel(in case you want more facts). So how did you like my "Research". Seems sombody has got offended....... | Reply
  • AKASH (06 August 2009 13:22)
    SABA: Stop hallucinating. Which US Company are you talking about? Since you seem to have done "research" - why don't you give me the details? Prove it or stop arguing. Give me a good counterpoint. Name the company you think makes diesels for Hyundai! (what a laugh! you must be really stressed up, huh?) | Reply
  • Saba (06 August 2009 11:40)
    Akash i think its time for you to wake up, u didnt have to write thrice to prove your point. I know ur a Hyundai fan but facts cant be changes. Go and have a detailed research. Get your figures correct. Hyundai Diesel engines have been outsourced from a US company.For you Hyundai is the world. Then smell the same coffee and be in your world just like an ostrich. | Reply
  • ASB (05 August 2009 17:33)
    Maruti suzuki RITZ rocks..... Way better than the i10 and at a good price..... | Reply
  • AKASH (05 August 2009 13:26)
    DEAR SABA : Who told you that Hyundai CRDi engine is from someone else? Wake up and smell the coffee! And as for petrol engine, Hyundai spent nearly half a Billion US dollars on R and D of the Kappa Engine. The Kappa Engine produces good levels of power along with fantastic fuel economy! No compromises. Suzuki K Series is just a half-hearted effort. Suzuki is one of the least favored carmakers of the world. Hyundai is the 5th largest and is gaining ground. It is OK to be a Suzuki Fan Boy but what I am trying to instill here is that there is no good reason to be one! | Reply
  • Saba (03 August 2009 21:06)
    Facts say that no doubt hyundai i20 is really gud, but why the hell hyundai ppl r calling the deisel engine as their own production, when they have taken it from some other company. Suzuki from day one acccepted that the deisel engine is from fiat. That's for deisel engines, but if we go for the petrol engines, then their is no match for the new suzuki K Series engines, which are a class apart and much advanced than their Korean counterparts. | Reply
  • AKASH (02 August 2009 02:06)
    @ Akash Welwisher : Read Dexter's comments below, he has summarised the argument very nicely. As for growing up, why don't you do that? As you have a Suzuki infatuation and infatuation is for pimpled teenagers, not adults. Adults go by facts and debate. If you have some level of intelligence, stop barking up my tree and start with some good counter points. Lets have an adult debat (oops, that is if you are one!) | Reply
  • Akash Welwisher (31 July 2009 20:00)
    Grow up akash.... you are arguing like a kid...... | Reply
  • Dexter (31 July 2009 19:42)
    I've been going through the comments and could not keep myself from writing some things. For all the people who are making negative comments against Hyundai and going gaga over Suzuki, please check the facts first. Hyundai is the fifth largest manufacturer of cars in the world and they did not earn it overnight. Suzuki on the other hand, have been in the business earlier than Hyundai and they are in 9th spot. Hyundai can atleast make a diesel engine on their own, but Suzuki cannot. The diesel giants in Asia are Toyota and Nissan, followed by Hyundai. There is a big difference in making your own engine and getting an already built engine and tuning it. And please see the NCAP safety ratings - i20 and i30 have 5 star ratings and Swift, Splash (a.k.a Ritz) and even SX4 has only 4 star ratings. My humble opinion is that if a car is good, try to accept the fact that it's good. As an enthusiast, I don't care which company makes the car, if it's good, it's good. | Reply
  • zats (30 July 2009 15:09)
    why hyundai is not providing i20 crdi diesel with any warranty, zero years warranty?????????????????a big question mark here.. rest all is fine with i20. | Reply
  • AKASH (28 July 2009 13:42)
    @ Hyundai Buyer : "Whatever Dude!!!" ??? Well that expression explains everything. You are an Engineering College student with a fancy for cars. But that fancy for cars is not serious enough. Maybe it is your age that makes you dismiss a point with "whatever"... Your generation lacks the spine to debate and make a point. The "I don't care attitude" allows you to slip out of a discussion. But it is not your fault... you will be wiser when you are older! Till then ...bask in the glory of your ignorance! | Reply
  • AKASH (28 July 2009 13:38)
    @ PRAVEEN : And what about Suzuki's Swift being a direct copy of the Mini Cooper? Sure, Sonata's front resembled Jag and i20's bonnet resembles Merc SLK's .... but look at the holistic design - both inside and out.... i20 is way ahead of the Swift... | Reply
  • praveen (28 July 2009 12:48)
    That right mr. anonymous, hyundai doesmt have anything of its own. this is not the first time, even at the time of sonata launch they did the same thing of copying design. Why would it spend so much on diesel engins when it is getting from outside and that too in their own name. | Reply
  • Hyundai Buyer (28 July 2009 12:41)
    Whatever dude!!!!!! think as u like.... But thats the truth... | Reply
  • AKASH (27 July 2009 15:44)
    @ Hyundai Buyer : The very fact that you have named yourself "Hyundai Buyer" is testament to the fact that you are simply trolling. I am sure you haven't even test-driven a hyundai, let alone own one. What enjoyment do you derive from this? Or are you a maruti dealer/salesperson? | Reply
  • hyundai buyer (26 July 2009 00:09)
    I bought i20 two months ago, and m truly dissappointed with the car. Engine noise is major concer and also mileage is very poor, around 10-12 kmpl.If after 2 or 3 services it doesnt work out well then i'll have to think again, whether to keep it or not. | Reply
  • Anonymous two (25 July 2009 19:08)
    To correct you guys... Hyundai has not taken the onus for developing diesel engines. It has outsourced the diesel engines from Detroit Diesels, A USA/Michigan based diesel engine manufacturing company. The current i 20 engine is also there product just like in past (Accent/Getz/ Verna and soon 1.1 litre i10 engine). What else would you have expected from hyundai, giving its name to some other company's product.In i 20, hyundai doesnt have anything of its own, the design has also been copied from Toyota Yaris. | Reply
  • K K TALWAR (25 July 2009 16:12)
    After compared between I20 | Reply
  • AKASH (25 July 2009 03:38)
    @ Chakra: don't mind but that will be some ugly car ... straight out of a nightmare! | Reply
  • chakra (25 July 2009 01:46)
    Well, the best combo is hybrid of Gypsy (looks and sturdyness) and Versa (space) with this diesel engine (performance) | Reply
  • AKASH (24 July 2009 18:19)
    @Thimma: you want a car with i20’s looks, Jazz’s space and Swift’s DDiS engine! A practical impossibility. BUT, i20 already has the space (both rear leg room and boot) because of its long wheelbase. You want something more spacious then the car will bound to look like a Jazz or an Innova! The i20 already provides ample space. And let’s not talk about the engine… it is a FIAT engine. Hyundai took an onus on itself to develop the class leading 1.2 Kappa as well as it 1.4 CRDi. Suzuki was never serious about diesel. And what about the obscene price tag the Jazz sports? A fine balance of looks, refinement and space is what an i20 offers – you want more? Well… then you may carry on dreaming for a bit longer…. | Reply
  • Anonymopus (24 July 2009 17:46)
    I do not share the general fascination and technological wet-dreams from diesels like the rest of you guys here. The extra amount you shell out for diesel can buy me at least 20,000 km worth of petrol. With my weekly running of 200 kms; that will last me just over 2 years. For e.g. if I buy the i20 petrol, I will last more than two years on petrol I buy from money I saved not buying the diesel. Plus in two years the diesel will still be more expensive by 50 odd thousand I will spend on the diesel. Looks to me that Diesels will only pay back after 3-4 years. Sorry, I don’t like to keep my cars for that long: hence I will go for a fully loaded petrol version. Ta ra rum pum pum! | Reply
  • Thimma (24 July 2009 05:49)
    sorry..typo there.. Swift Diesel DDiS engine.. | Reply
  • Thimma (24 July 2009 05:43)
    I am "AKASH well wisher (22 July 2009 02:41:31)". take it easy all. Had been reviewing the different B, B segment cars and came up with some juicy dreams (its car dreams guys..:)). Take the Swift Diesel CRDi engine GEAR BOX and plug it into the Hyundai i20 bonnet and move the fuel tank under the front seat and all.. like the Honda Jazz and what do we get.?? wow. I can fit a pool table in my back seat while driving a sports car with Cindrella looks..:) Any takers..??Hyundai..Suzuki..Honda.. are you listening..? haan get the price right for heaven's sake.!!Seriously..Suzuki should have done just that instead of releasing the SWIFT Dzire whose back looks like the massive bottoms of pachyderms..:( | Reply
  • AKASH (22 July 2009 13:13)
    @ SIVA: read all my posts below and then tell me if I know or don't know about other cars that I am talking about. Oneliners don't hold here. Chill! | Reply
  • AKASH (22 July 2009 13:10)
    @ "AKASH well wisher ": A surprisingly spot on post from you. What can I say, for once ... I agree with you! | Reply
  • Suresh (22 July 2009 12:14)
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  • AKASH well wisher (22 July 2009 02:41)
    @Akash: I am a neutral bystander and a cr enthusiast and believe you have a point or two on Hyundai i20. Everyone know the fact that Hyundai i20 has far better features than any other car in it class at that price point (i am just waiting to see its on-road mileage on diesel before I can take one home). The nearest rival can boast of only one thing (if you can guess who that rival is, I am an admirer of this nearest rival too), their expertise in tuning a engine developed by a third party or a consortia. Just ignore @Ankur, he seems to be a marketing research / TP guy who wants better feedback from people and so kick up a propoganda to extract that out by playing with your sentiments. @Ankur, you must put forth some facts to counter else this forum is better off less your rantings. People like me are looking for facts.One more thing, the leading car brand in India is nowhere to be seen in any segment of cars in any other part of the world for that matter. Hyundai is a better known brand throught the world and it complies with latest safety, emission standards. Great on looks, luxury, variants and priced ALMOST right compared to some JAZZY..:) cars on the road. | Reply
  • Siva (21 July 2009 12:46)
    Akash, don't just blame other company cars without knowing the fact. Just discuss only the positive points of I20. | Reply
  • K K Talwar (18 July 2009 19:15)
    I compared between I20 Deisel version | Reply
  • Vivek Sawaiker (17 July 2009 21:18)
    I fully support any other car maker than Suzuki. All their claims of good services is incorrect. Complaints are not attended to in one go and you are asked to visit service centres again and again by wasting time | Reply
  • AKASH (17 July 2009 15:22)
    @ Akash's Well Wisher (though I doubt you are that!) : FYI in any adult debate 2 parties take 2 opp. stands on an issue and debate. That has been a human persuit since Socrates. You are missing the point entirely - I am NOT a fanatic, hundai employee or an argumentative indian. I was debating with Suresh and he has been a great debating opponent. I was not "fighting" with him you infant! Go do your homework or something! | Reply
  • AKASH (17 July 2009 15:13)
    @ Suresh : Finally a clear perspective from your side. I can only agree with you on this. To each one his own choices. I was merely debating on the lines of "which is a better car" - which may not have been your argument in the first place. Thanks for the debate mate! Take care. | Reply
  • Akashs well wisher (17 July 2009 10:52)
    Suresh Akash wants that what he says should be excepted by everyone. Ankur, if Hyundai i20 has certain disadvantages don't write it in this column, as you will find a reply popped up from the greatest follower of Hyundai in minutes. Akash instead of bashing other companies, do some productive work. Remember every company is doing its best to survive in this competitive industry. | Reply
  • Akashs well wisher (17 July 2009 10:48)
    ZIG WHEELS Please make a note of this, let the forum be open only for "AKASH". Every 2nd reply is of Akash, he doesnt want to listen anything against Hyundai. Ok akash from now on Zig wheels the only company to be published will be HYUNDAI, else you do one thing either you buy this website or make a new one of your own. | Reply
  • Suresh (17 July 2009 07:07)
    speaking objectively...is what every one does...except some...and to be objective and sensible...if u want to buy a vehicle for 5-6L the swift diesel is still the best choice...great in city and if u r careful on highways...will do the job...if u want to stretch the budget by 6-7 lacs...one has to consider all the choices in this range...the new B hatches...and the old and have been there boleros possibly...the new ones does offer some extra benefits...but are they worth the huge premium for the small extras...or does the old warhorse still stands a fair chance...for me it does in this price range...and it is still a good and a fair choice above all else...lot of people do buy this...some do buy other lesser choices...ofcourse every one has their own choices... | Reply
  • AKASH (17 July 2009 03:03)
    @ Suresh - just because Bolero sells doesn't mean its a better car. Why are you changing the topic into an emotional rant? I am NOT talking about affording a car - I am talking about understanding which is a better car (even if it is unaffordable to many). It is like the fox calling the grapes sour ! Be objective. Ask yourself which is a better car not which is a cheaper one and is owned by millions... would you compare a superbike with a moped? Doesn't make sense... all this emotional outburst just because someone drilled into your head in the 80s that korean cars are crap! Sigh! | Reply
  • Suresh (16 July 2009 21:42)
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  • Suresh (16 July 2009 21:37)
    the box of iron...yes i presume that is what every car is...even if its made by hyundai...unless if its a jag or a audi where its a box of aluminium...but to get back...that box of iron...is indias largest selling SUV...carries millions of people...over millions of kms where no other box of iron can run...ofcourse thers no reason why u should be on it and u can choose to be on any other box...as u like with a loan size of u r choice...thinking u r saving u r family...while all u might be doing is padding some korean chaebol...nothing wrong...its after all u r mony...enjoy | Reply
  • hardrider (16 July 2009 20:03)
    so much is said about i20, lets hope it really competes with the swift which has certanly proven its worth. | Reply
  • Suresh (16 July 2009 18:37)
    is it all settled now? | Reply
  • akash (16 July 2009 18:10)
    No thanks, I don't fancy a box of iron for my commuting. And please put forth a better point.Euro NCAP now emphasizes the importance of new safety technologies that assist a vehicle’s behavior before an accident REGARDLESS of its size. 4 out of its Top 5 Safest 5star cars are smaller cars. Hyundai i20 scored the highest with avg. 80.22 per cent. The Test covers Adult Occupant Protection, Child Occupant Protection, Pedestrian Protection and Safety Assist. | Reply
  • AKASH (16 July 2009 18:09)
    Suresh, No thanks, I don't fancy a box of iron for my commuting. And please put forth a better point.Euro NCAP now emphasizes the importance of new safety technologies that assist a vehicle’s behavior before an accident REGARDLESS of its size. 4 out of its Top 5 Safest 5star cars are smaller cars. Hyundai i20 scored the highest with avg. 80.22 per cent. The Test covers Adult Occupant Protection, Child Occupant Protection, Pedestrian Protection and Safety Assist. | Reply
  • AKASH (16 July 2009 17:38)
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  • AKASH (16 July 2009 16:58)
    @ ANKUR: Come up with some credible Hyundai i20 bashing points. Sorry but I have not seen a single strong point against Hyundai except your constant whining that it is overpriced for a crappy Korean car! You say I don’t know much about Suzuki, well infact I do and I have given you a million reasons why Suzuki Swift is an inferior car to the i20. Suzuki Fan boys talk of 2 main points PRICE and SERVICE CENTRES. Well Swift is cheap because it does not offer the package a Hyundai i20 does and please note that technologically advanced cars don't require much maintenance except regular oil change. | Reply
  • AKASH (16 July 2009 16:43)
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  • Ankur (16 July 2009 16:29)
    Akash its good that you want to debate, but from your replies it seems that you are only aware of Hyundai and not other companies, be it 'Suzuki' as you say or GMs and Toyota's. I know that you back ur replies with facts, but then where do these facts and replies disappear when Hyundai not at advantage? No hard feelings, but give space for other companies also. Isn't this too infantile for you? | Reply
  • Mohamed Nazaruddin (16 July 2009 16:24)
    I think Hyundai i2o deisesl is copetitive as it offers wide range of standard items which are extras on some of the same segment cars. But if you ask me to pick an i20 and Swift disesl,defenitely I would prefer the Swift beacsue of its less cost,more resale value,less maintenance and proven record. Its simply depneds from person to person to choose what he/she wants the level of comfort | Reply
  • AKASH (16 July 2009 16:20)
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  • K K TALWAR (16 July 2009 15:32)
    I compared between i20 | Reply
  • AKASH (16 July 2009 13:39)
    @ ANKUR : I am a grown up and I want a grown-up debate - is that too infantile for your taste? I am not arguing, I want to simply debate, that's all! And I am not related to Hyundai by any business or professional relations. I can also say the same thing for you though, what’s up? Afraid of a little debate? Why is it that whenever I come out with counter arguments with facts to back it up – some Suzuki fanboy has to feel threatened? Grow up guys! | Reply
  • Suresh (16 July 2009 11:58)
    btw Mr.Akash...in case of a crash that i hope dosent happen...u r much better off in a bolero...cause if u read carefully about crash tests...u will know that the primary two essentials in a crash that protects u are...how much metal u hav got before u and how high u sit...means...more metal is better and sitting higher is better...and bolero scores on both...the speed with which u hit is the next and finally what counts is if u hav air bags...which reduces the chances of u hitting the steering column...get u r priorities and primaries right mate...dont let u r ego grow with u r loan size... | Reply
  • Suresh (16 July 2009 11:27)
    i guess no body except some disagree about quality of hyundai i20...its good ...and hyundais in general hav become very very good compared to earlier generations...but dear gentle men ...where is the spirit of competitive ness from hyundai...santro, when introduced was competitively equipped and priced...it dosent mean that a slightly better product should always be priced a lot more...this is what i say by being thoughtful to indians...giv a good product and a great price...i20 is a good product...whers the great price??????? | Reply
  • Ankur (16 July 2009 10:47)
    @ Akash either you work for Hyundai or they give you commission for applauding them. It seems that when ever anyone writes little anti hyundai, your reply comes at that time. OMG you are certainly either a loyal one or a Hyundai workshop owner. You cant see anything anti hyundai written anywhere.Grow up dude, let peple express themselves. Their are crores of people who dont like Hyundai cars, I dont know how many replies will you write.Grow Up Dude. | Reply
  • Ankur (16 July 2009 10:43)
    @ Akash either you work for Hyundai or they give you commission for applauding them. It seems that when ever anyone writes little anti hyundai, your reply comes at that time. OMG you are certainly either a loyal one or a Hyundai workshop owner. You cant see anything anti hyundai written anywhere.Grow up dude, let peple express themselves. Their are crores of people who dont like Hyundai cars, I dont know how many replies will you write.Grow Up Dude. | Reply
  • AKASH (15 July 2009 13:11)
    @ PETROLHEAD: Careful what you call "junk" my friend. I will not call a car with ABS, EBD, 6 Airbags and a EURO NCAAP 5 Star rating as a piece of junk! A Vista and a Bolero is! === @SURESH: In case you didn't realize - there is something called car loans. I would stretch and pay 6 odd lacs for a safe car for my family. It is perpective, for me my family's safety is worth more than money and it would be the only car in the family - I would go for a safe car rather than a cheap or VFM car! It has nothing to do with being Posh ! ==== @DEEP: I agree the i20 diesel is 1.5 lacs more expensive than Swift D, but what is more important to you? a safe car for your wife and baby to travel by or simply the cheapest and best diesel? Your needs are different than mine so Hyundai simply is catering to my needs... and Maruti is yours... ===== REMEMBER EVERYONE, THERE IS NO ONE CAR FITS ALL, WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS AND WE NEED DIFFERENT CARS. SO DON'T GENERALIZE BY STATING "WE INDIANS..." | Reply
  • Good Fellas (15 July 2009 12:22)
    We Indians are always taken for granted by low cost, unsafe and shabby quality products a la Indica/Maruti. We are happy and almost thankful to the cos for their largesse. Long live the Indian mindset. | Reply
  • Good Fellas (15 July 2009 12:19)
    We Indians are always taken for granted by low cost, unsafe and shabby quality products a la Indica/Maruti. We are happy and almost thankful to the cos for their largesse. Long live the Indian mindset. | Reply
  • Deep (15 July 2009 11:41)
    i 20 diesel seems a good package but still if you see the price its about 1.5 lac higher then the swift VDi, more over swift is running successfully with DDiSlast 2 years and there is no prob with maruti's of after sell i guess it's low cots of ownership then any car company in INIDA. | Reply
  • Suresh (15 July 2009 09:10)
    being thoughtful does matter...tata and suzuki may not sell in heaps worldwide...but they are thoughtful about indian aspirations...hyundai started for mass india with santro...now sees itself as posh and upper crest and uber cool...buying a swift r even a bolero at this price is still sensible...may not be cool...but worth the mony...unless u r the posh and shallow type and made u r mony in the stock market trading futures | Reply
  • Suresh (15 July 2009 09:05)
    with regard to hyundai...once up on a time it was worse than suzuki...but they hav improved so well that they can equate themselves even with lexus nowadays...for a much lesser cost...which is good for the world...as they are turning themselves in to a affordable luxury brand...just look at genesis and u will know...but does any of this has any significance to india...unfortunately NO...when santro was introduced...hyundai thought of India...not hyundai thinks for world...and thats big difference dear gentlemen....the masses of india cannot afford to pay that much...so in conclusion...may be i20 is a better product...but it simply is not designed or priced with `we the indians in mind` | Reply
  • AKASH (15 July 2009 01:03)
    @ Sambit: it seems you have missed out on a product called the i10. That my friend is Hyundai's mass car.... the problem is that people in India feel that any car with a hatch is not worth more than 4-5 lakhs. Sambit, the market has matured and now we have something called "Superminis" - i.e. large hatchback cars with top end features that may be missing in midsized sedans as well. That is why we have Grande Punto, Honda Jazz and Skoda Fabia on our roads... they are not meant to be mass cars... they are a whole new segment! | Reply
  • sambit (14 July 2009 23:48)
    i20 wld b a prestigious car,bt the sales wont go up than the swifts or the indica vistas....hyundai's products may b most reliable,bt no way,indian customers r goin 2 compromise in price....its better 4 the hyundai,2 cut price n use cheap interiors/plastics in base models 2 woe the customers...else it wont b a mass car......if hyundai wants 2 make it a class car, n not sell much of its units,then this is a gud strategy......bt if they want 2 sell more.....take example from the strategies of TATA.in vista,it has used cheap,bt good lookin interiors......n hence cut price.....(vista's top model,quadrajet costs 510000 [onroad],wid all features except abs n airbags)So i20 needs a pricing of max 6-6.1 lacks[onroad] 4 top model... | Reply
  • Arvind Gupta (14 July 2009 21:34)
    Some food for thought for you guys: Hyundai has the worlds biggest automobile assembly plant in the world with an annual capacity of 1.7 million cars which is 5 times bigger than the average assembly plant in the US. Hyundai exports all of its high end cars to all the countries in the world including the US. Which means that it is defenitely serious about its cars quality. We as consumers must demand more quality from its Indian made cars for the price we are paying. | Reply
  • sachin  (14 July 2009 14:55)
    I think hyundai i20 is a best car in 2009 | Reply
  • Mukund (14 July 2009 14:39)
    I have Verna-CRDI. I think what Hundai is giving for the prize they are asking is very good if you consider India. | Reply
  • venkatesh (14 July 2009 12:19)
    hyundai cars can be driven very smoothly wjthout engine noise in a petrol engine breaks are most effective while we are at top speed,they are producing most effective cars for indian roads. | Reply
  • Deep  (14 July 2009 02:19)
    Top 5 New Superminis in UK (source; whatcar.com uk) ---------1. Ford Fiesta Hatchback 2. Hyundai i20 Hatchback 3. Fiat 500 Hatchback 4. Vauxhall Corsa Hatchback 5. Suzuki Swift Hatchback ----------- Hyundai i20 is 2nd and Suzuki Swift is 5th. Speaks for itself I guess | Reply
  • anirs (14 July 2009 02:16)
    To correct you guys... Hyundai has outsourced the diesel engines from Detroit Diesels, A USA/Michigan based diesel engine manufacturing company. The current engine is also there product just like in past (Accent/Getz/ Verna and now i20 / and soon 1.1 litre i10 engine. I know it as I am from Detroit Diesels only. Thanks | Reply
  • Akash (13 July 2009 23:30)
    righto Pablo, good for us... we know a good car when we see one :). Hyundai has done well to package and price the i20 - it knows its product... | Reply
  • pablo (13 July 2009 21:30)
    i 20 is not meant for tom dick and harry... so obviously wont be hot seller.. so much the better to have an exclusive car :) | Reply
  • Gagandeep (13 July 2009 17:25)
    I agree with Akash on comparing the sale of Suzuki | Reply
  • Akash (13 July 2009 13:32)
    @ Bhushan, did I sound like I was talking out of my imagination? I apologise for giving you that impression. I don't know about UK, but I have been living and working in continental Europe since 2005. I have been living and working in Germany, Czech Rep and Switzerland. Also I have been travelling for leisure. I have not seen a single Tata. I have seen about 10 Suzuki Swifts - but I must have seen around 40-50 Hyundai Getz and another 20-30 Hyundai i20 and i30s. In reality both the numbers for Suzuki and Hyundai pales in comparison to Audis, Peugeots, VWs, Fords, Toyotas,etc. But, still there are MORE Hyundais than Suzuki here. So the declaration that Hyundai's don't sell in other countries but Suzukis do is a figment of wishful imagination! Internationally both are nowhere compared to established brands so we should compare what is the story in India - In India Ford is a weaker brand than Suzuki, why ? Even though worldwide Ford beats Suzuki by lightyears... so no use comparing that... In the i20 1.4 ltr diesel you have the best car in its segment IN India. Suzuki Swift Diesel sells more because it is cheaper not because it is a better car (either in India or anywhere else). | Reply
  • Bhushan  (13 July 2009 12:34)
    @Akash. Maybe you dont know but infact in Europe there are many Suzuki than Hyndai. So please try to retrieve from your sources whether you are right or wrong. Other thing maybe you dont know this but TATA has a very nice and good market fot their INDICA in UK and they have good market as well for TATA SAFARI in African countries. So again please see whether you are saying is right or wrong. | Reply
  • Akash (13 July 2009 02:33)
    @Bhavesh, in other countries, nobody buys Suzuki or Tata either :). In fact Hyundai does better than Suzuki. So what are we comparing? Until and unless we are talking about Audis and Beemers, lets throw the "Suzuki is better than Hyundai in other countries" story away, eh? | Reply
  • Akash (13 July 2009 02:28)
    @dharminder and @ankur, sorry guys if I gave the wrong impression. All I wanted to say was that the premium that Hyundai is charging over say a Swift D or Indica Vista is more than made up for with the equipment and engine. However, it would have been wise to take out a stripped down version directly in the competitor's price range - because I agree that Indian market is price sensitive. Well the i20 diesel IS more expensive than the Fiat GP D | Reply
  • ankur (12 July 2009 20:29)
    Akash I think its time for you to wake up. I totally agree with dharminder. You have given so many facts for i20, tell me how much sale has i20 picked up since it has been launched, whatever the engine may be, but it will never be as popular as swift or ritz. Today we are in Outsourcing era, what ever Suzuki thinks best, they do and because of that only swift has been chep. Anyways numbers speak for Maruti Suzuki, they dont need your comments.Remember this is India where price is the major decision maker for customers. | Reply
  • dharminder (12 July 2009 17:10)
    @Akash, u seems to be pro hyundai. I am talking abt Diesel and u r suggesting me i20 petrol. I20 diesel lowest version cost arnd 6.20lac and its more than 1lac coslier than other HATCHBACK like RITZ,SWIFT or PUNTO. We all have seen that how much popular is Swift diesel. Popularity can only be measured from the SALE VOLUME. I am not against the features i20 is offering. People like you who can shell out 1lac extra can definately go for I20diesel or Fabia diesel. But i am dead sure that i20's price factor will make it flop. Just after a year siimply compare the No. of i20 diesels sold with other hatchbacks from Maruti. Then reply with ur 'specification comments'. I hope hyundai will lower the price of i20diesel in year or two or will launch a low cost . Its fate gonna be same as that of GETS CRDI or overprices FABIA. | Reply
  • Bhavesh (12 July 2009 13:16)
    When Indians will realise what is quality!!! No body buys hyundai if u see other country!!! In india it is TOP auto company | Reply
  • anurag (12 July 2009 02:20)
    as far as i know hyundai is the 5 or possibly the 4 largest auto maker in the world. so i think they deserve some amount of respect! :Di am waiting for the hyundai i20 1.4 petrol manual. hope they launch it by the end of the year. :P | Reply
  • dharminder (11 July 2009 08:50)
    gonna be flop show. When diesel hatchback is available for 5lacs, only SOME people will go for i20 diesel. Just see sales volume after 6 months . | Reply
  • lohit (11 July 2009 01:59)
    heyy i went to ta showroom in delhi n asked abt the power specifications of i.20 disel n d representative said tht it was 103.5PS. Can i be corrected?? or he?? | Reply
  • whizkid (10 July 2009 18:22)
    The only difference between a Maruti and Hyundai is the build quality and quality of plastics used in the interiors.Maruti cars start rattling very soon. But, hey this is India.....and price plays a very important role in everything. A Swift diesel gives your everything...looks,power,efficiency,after sales service. So why would anyone go for a i20 | Reply
  • adheip (10 July 2009 15:59)
    skodas build , fiats looks, suzukis handling, hyundais diesel engine, thr v hv most perfect hatch in the world..wt say folks?? | Reply
  • Alok Verma (10 July 2009 15:01)
    It's great news that i20 is launched with a nice power packed OWN not borrowed like Maruti and u really need to wait to hell lot of time for SwiftDzire. That's one aspect of it and let's talk about quality and space which Maruti can never match with Hyundai. I tested Ritz and Dzire and they failed miserably in pickup and AC..yes...I tested in hot conditions like 43 deg cel. delhi summer and the AC just fell down flat. Gear shifting and shockers were bad. I was really surprised to see the AC effect of automatic Dzire and the demo car done 12k had geras like a truck...very poor. Then I tested grand Punto and it was far better in clutch, gear shifting and AC was awsome. The gear had vibrations and was OK but shockers were great. But the space at back was poor for persons like me who drives keeping driving seat to maximum pushed back. The person won't be able to sit comfortable at all. I have been driving Getz 1341 CC and it's a pleasure to drive in terms of space, gear shifting, clutch and pickup. I derive 15KM/l from Getz by following 50KM speed as per ads from govt as I travel 60 KM daily from delhi to Noida with AC. I tested ford Iken diesel and it's a sorry test drive in terms of pickup and gear shifting...AC was OK but not impressive at all. I have been waiting for i20 Diesel and since it's new designed engine with power and torque it's a smart car and I would go for it seeing the space and power and fuel efficiency which is 20 KM/l. I don't understand why Maruti can't come up with an own engine even after hiring hell lot of engineers from all over. Itb seems they have software designers designing their cars..just cutn and paste from existing designs and make a new one..... | Reply
  • Shine (10 July 2009 15:00)
    "Hyundai developed 1.4L diesel engine for i20 is a technological marvel."Bu hah hah haaa.....I cant stop laughing...I admired the hyundai CRDI engine when it was first launched in Accent. Only came to know to know that their refinement last only up 60,000 kms after which they sounds like "Mahindra VAN" or old "Willeys Jeep". I see no difference in any terms between the accent engine and I20 engine apart from a different BORE X STROKE. Huyndai's are fuel effiecient, their A.S.S is very good, their car are good..but a un-reliable engine spoils the party | Reply
  • aravindp (10 July 2009 14:39)
    hyundai has a good brand name and with the relaease of i20 it has only grown the company should concentrate more on fuel efficient and non polluting engine technologies | Reply
  • Rama Rao (10 July 2009 14:09)
    Hyundai is on the rise in India and Suzuki is worried. In USA, Honda sells over one million cars per year, Hyundai sells over 1/2 million cars per year in USA and Suzuki sells about 1,000 cars per year in USA. Americans do not admire Suzuki 800 type technology. | Reply
  • Arun Kumar (10 July 2009 13:32)
    Hyundai developed 1.4L diesel engine for i20 is a technological marvel. It is the most fuel efficient (18 city/23 Highway) kmpl and most powerful (79 BHP/224 NM) engine. Compare it with Skoda 1.4 TDI (69/155) in Fabia and Skoda 1.9 TDI (80/186) in Octavia. Both Skoda diesel engine FE is (10.5-12.0/ 14.5-15.0) kmpl. I heard they have also developed 1.17L diesel engine for i10, which is more fuel efficient and powerful than 1.25L Fiat diesel engine used in Suzuki and Tata. | Reply
  • CarNerd (10 July 2009 13:24)
    Though i20 looks like a good package, I am unable to understand their pricing.In all hatches we see a difference of 70-80K between petrol | Reply
  • Prashant (10 July 2009 11:07)
    I agree with ankur.India needs latest technology diesel engines as well as quality.only marutisuzuki along with tata-fiat are catering this.the premium these car manufacturers collects is around 3.5 times(ie, 7lakhs car actually costs 1.75 lakhs) for a new vehicle.korean hyundai must reduce their premium to sell their cars here. | Reply
  • Sampath Kumar (10 July 2009 10:52)
    What is the price of Hyundai i20 with diesel and automatic options? | Reply
  • ankur (10 July 2009 10:32)
    Mr. Knowledgable, get ur knowledge checked. their is nothing marvlous with the i20 crdi engine. Remember Hyundai is a korean company which is faar behind in technology from its japanese counterparts. The only thing that hyundai gives to its customers is car interiors and high price for their cars and nothing else. no mater how hard hyundai tries but swift and ritz diesel will be the clear winner. | Reply
  • Knowledgeable (10 July 2009 10:02)
    Kishore...you seem to know nothing about cars. I20 diesel is undoubtedly one the best in its class available in India. | Reply
  • Glen (10 July 2009 09:44)
    The only so called competition I see is from the Skoda Fabia at that price bracket. With the amount of Fabias Skoda is selling i dont see any threat for Hyundai. All the others like Punto, Swift and Vista are priced lesser. Hyundai's plans would be to keep i20 as niche and let Getz do the battle with the rest of the bunch. | Reply
  • Kishore (10 July 2009 09:26)
    Hyundai cars always built on feel good factor, not as engineering marvel. No matter what there are loads of Indian fools who will buy one. | Reply
  • Ramagopal (10 July 2009 00:05)
    Hyundai is doing well. I am waiting for the automatic on i20 CRDi. If one has driven a Golf latest diesel with VW's DSG gearbox, then i20 still has some catching up to do. | Reply
  • Akash (09 July 2009 21:07)
    It is apparent now that Hyundai wants to tear the competition apart and take no prisoners! Moreover there is now something for everyone in its complete range of variants for i20. Lest a buyer is tight on cash, he simply can get his hands on the wide choices in the i10 range. So Hyundai has effectively cornered the lower and mid segments of car buyers with every conceivable variant.I was feeling sorry for Fiat Grande Punto, Honda Jazz and Skoda Fabia. But Hyundai is not happy with that alone. It is hell-bent on giving Maruti Suzuki sleepless nights, no less!!! Bravo Hyundai, Bravo!!! This is all out war and the consumer will be the ultimate winner! | Reply
  • shashank iyer (09 July 2009 20:06)
    its a worth car with lots of feature .can get full loaded car at price of base model of jazz petrol !!! and fabia diesel .it will give a stiff competition to swift and punto wit a fuel effeciency as good as swift and more power compared to that of fiat multijet.1.4 diesel is a value for money premium hatchback. But the down side is 1.4 petrol engine does not have a manual transmission and it is costlier than the diesel | Reply
  • Dexter (09 July 2009 19:51)
    Am waiting for a full test drive of this car. From specs and initial drive, it looks to be a great buy. For Maruti Suzuki, the only diesel they have is the Fiat->GM->Suzuki 1.3 Multijet (I would like to call it that way, even if Maruti Suzuki callls it DDiS). Suzuki does not have a decent diesel engine of their own becuase they never really invested in diesel engine development. Even the SX4 is a joint development by Fiat and Suzuki (don't know how many people know that SX4 = Fiat Sedici). But I think Hyundai has the capability to produce their own cars and also their own engines, which is a big advantage. Only if they are able to pack it wisely. | Reply
  • Suresh (09 July 2009 17:55)
    maruti should launch the SX4 hatch....as a fitting competition...would be so desirable at the same price | Reply
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