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Honda Jazz: The Passion of Purists!

Vikram Gour   8 June 2009

Honda Jazz

With the launch of the Jazz just around the corner, the internet has been witness to the sparks that have flown regarding the latest Honda product that will soon grace Indian roads.

Honda Jazz

Being in the limelight is a tough job, for amongst all the praises there are sure to be those who don't agree. With the Honda Jazz, fame has not been any different. The car has been commended for its good looks, Honda DNA, performance and expectations, yet all hell broke loose when the tentative pricing of the Honda Jazz leaked out.

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The internet fraternity literally took to their computers to share with the world their views about the pricing. We at Zigwheels have received a lot of mail and article comments regarding the same, and there is no doubt that the Honda Jazz pricing is one of the most awaited news tidbits that the Indian auto enthusiast is waiting for.
(view: http://www.zigwheels.com/alfresco/INDT/News/Hondaj_20090608_images/page1/honda-jazz)

But before we get into what the pricing should be and what Honda ought to do, let me indulge you for a bit about the Jazz itself.

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The Honda Jazz might be Honda's smallest offering in India, but by no means is it a small car. It is a hatchback by design, yet its dimensions lend it a rather large look-sort of the new age look for upper end premium hatchbacks that offer everything a midsize sedan offers, yet manage to fit in crowded streets with elan. Set to come in with a 1.2 litre petrol engine, don't misjudge the Jazz as a lackluster performer. The 1.2 litre engine is as an extremely tech savvy piece of machinery that is designed to offer enhanced mileage and excellent power delivery throughout the torque band. One thing that everyone can agree on is that Honda knows engines like nobody else.

Honda Jazz

Further to this, the Jazz offers great driving dynamics, its well suited for the urban environment, it offers oodles of style and knowing Honda's packaging, it will come with a host of goodies. Of course the launch and subsequent tests of the Jazz will shed more light on just what this car offers, but for right now, there is little to argue in terms of negative aspects considering the build and quality of the Honda Jazz.

What does set off an argument is the pricing on the car. The fate of the Jazz seems to be decided prior to its launch itself, however it is important to note that the company is yet to reveal the exact price of the car, but speculation has it that the car will not be cheap.

From the looks of it, the Jazz is heading right in the direction that the Hyundai i20 and Skoda Fabia went at the time of their launch. Charging a premium for a hatchback in India does not seem like a good idea to most, and the comments on stories regarding the Hyundai i20, Skoda Fabia and the Honda Jazz highlight this point. Is it because we equate value for money with size? Or are we willing to look deeper into the product to actually understand why it is priced in the manner that it is?

One staunch view is to blatantly claim that the vehicle is overpriced just because it falls in a category where cars have had prices that are substantially lower. The other view is to actually understand the product, its build quality, the materials used, the accessories offered, safety equipment, creature comforts and on top of that factor in the government regulations for that particular segment. A third view on this whole pricing debate can also be looked at from a standpoint of evolution. Is the Indian hatchback market expanding? Are we witnessing the rise of a new segment in ultra premium hatchbacks?

No doubt, everyone is entitled to their own views, however a deeper, more informed notion about a vehicle is what will reveal an honest answer.  An old saying says, "Don't judge a book by its cover." This applies to cars as well. Take a better look, get a proper understanding of what the car offers, be it a hatchback, sedan, luxury car or even an SUV, an informed understanding will always reveal more.

What should Honda do? Well, this is frankly up to them to decide on what is best for their company and product. Product pricing is always a sensitive issue and will always be open to debate. Right now it is a wait and watch game on what the Jazz is actually priced at. How will the market take to it, and what is going to be the reaction of buyers who have this car on their wish list. Time is the best story teller, and time will reveal the facts.

 
 

User's Comments
  • Kailash Ch MISHRA (04 March 2010 07:42)
    I am a proud owner of Honda Jazz Active of course I am not at all rich but the comparisons with other cars is not justified as our Indian conditions are totally different and our purchasing capacity is also weighed by many other Factors. As Oranges can never be compared to Apples and we do not say anything about the Mercedes and above all why we own a car the same thing can be done by the most unsafe vehicle run in our country that is AUTO and we say in our country many people die in road accident than the undeclared war with Pakistan so where do you stand? Honda has every right to keep its price as JAZZ is his product and if they consider Indian people and their purchasing capacities then I do not consider they have lunched the JAZZ to earn the maximum profit or they have lost a lot of Yen in other countries,so as to compensate the loss if we enjoy we should have it then write a review but in my opinion it is a fabulous car and the features are just fantastic and I have fallen in love and dreamt to own and drive the day it was lunched and I thank HONDA to bring such a nice car to India and aslo fulfilling my dream. My prof says( I AM DOCTOR) the best people in world as sales man-ship and craftsmanship JAPAN is an outstanding country they do not forget the customer the moment money is realized for their product. | Reply
  • sandeep (08 September 2009 17:56)
    I bought a Jazz recently and am amazed by its technology and features. Rest assured it is as cool a ride as its hot price. Fabulous! | Reply
  • Anirudh Takkar (05 August 2009 16:02)
    Honda you guys have lost another customer......i was desperately waiting for Jazz to come out and had even told my father that i wanted to buy Jazz.....but after seeing the price tag and then looking at the features while test driving it I didnt find it VFM at all.......so I decided to go for i20.......much better car at much lesser price.......good bye Honda. | Reply
  • Siddharth  (18 June 2009 17:06)
    Frankly was awaitng the Jazz for a long time...But am very dissappointed. Agreed Honda cars command a premium in the Indian market , but charging such a premium is unthinkable especially when most Indians are very price concious and sedan /hatchback concious. A fabia which is also premium is priced lesser, and whose enginering, build quality, performance is far better than any japanese /korean cars. they got away with high pricing in the Honda City , but B segment buyers are whole different ballgame. I think , u Honda Marketing guys ,are maketing geniuses(will reduce car price l8r but still be called premium), or just plain arrogant and overconfident (not a desirable trait when ur launching ur 1st hatchback in the market) :) | Reply
  • Praveent (12 June 2009 22:45)
    Nice stylish compact car but....is it positioned correctly with repect to price....and can compete with others in price....... | Reply
  • Mohd (12 June 2009 22:38)
    honda has always charged a premium on all its products in india..its shocking to see the price u r buying a Honda in india u might be able to buy a Mercedes/BMW..Frankly speaking the Jazz should be priced in the range of Rs.4 to Rs.5.5Lakhs range.. | Reply
  • sunil (12 June 2009 22:14)
    please let us know this car price in foriegn market and then compare . As is the case of LOGAN , it's cost in europe is less than india. | Reply
  • Rajesh (12 June 2009 20:35)
    I saw it yesterday, and I followed it like I used to follow girls in my hey days. I was totally mesmerized. | Reply
  • praveen wasan  (12 June 2009 18:33)
    Honda should charge Brand premium very smartly. An excessive premium for Honda brand, that too in the price sensitive small-mid car segment may result in customer losing faith in the brand itself. | Reply
  • Utkarsh (12 June 2009 16:05)
    Dear Nagappa | Reply
  • Nagappa (11 June 2009 16:03)
    Allz you peoples who comment without understanding....are the true foolz......I am proud owner of Honda vehicles for past 7 yrs...quality and class is priceless...now i am buying Jazz.....it is a good price | Reply
  • M P Singh (11 June 2009 16:01)
    All comments speak of fooling people...how is Honda fooling people..i do not understand...they have priced the car...they have brought the car to india....they are charging for it....they are not lying to you...they are not cheating you by giving one price and charging another...they are not robbing you...they are simply stating the price....people need to chill out...if you don';t like hte price...buy different car....if you like the price...buy the jazz.....I was considering the Jazz....and i am still considering buying it....just waiting to see if I have a job after recession ends!!! | Reply
  • Kishalay (11 June 2009 15:51)
    Honda is taking the pricing war a bit too far...and who are they trying to fool... | Reply
  • Nitish Sharma (11 June 2009 14:54)
    it is an overprizedcar, i mean that a person in this range can go for ford fiesta, verna, ford ikon, mahindra logan, even you can get skoda fabia in 5-6 lacks. thn why would a person will go for a hatchback, either honda is making indians fool or their pricefixers are fool. | Reply
  • Imran Afridi (11 June 2009 13:56)
    Comments, very much RESERVED | Reply
  • Navin bangera (11 June 2009 11:38)
    honda seems to be out their mind please study the market pricing of all hacth back cars and then jump into the fray. | Reply
  • Mukesh Upadhyay (11 June 2009 02:11)
    Hello ya they are realy making fools of Indians. I am at Montreal nowadays; just checked Canada web site. here 1.5 lt 109 bhp enginewith all saftey features selling at C$15000 aprrox 6lac INR.... It is called Fit here. | Reply
  • Mathew P (11 June 2009 00:35)
    Get smart! There is a car as big as the Jazz, with a longer wheelbase, more fuel efficient, and with higher ground clearance, the UVA from Chevrolet! Why waste time with Jazz? | Reply
  • Mathew (11 June 2009 00:34)
    Cool it guys, there is a car as big as the Jazz, with more wheelbase, more fuel efficient, and with higher ground clearance, the UVA from Chevrolet! Why waste time with Jazz | Reply
  • Shinu (11 June 2009 00:02)
    The product ofcourse will be of top notch quality and imagine a 1.2 litre engine churning out 90ps power. All said still i feel the pricing is bit high. No one would like to spend around 8 lacs on road for a hatch... | Reply
  • raj (10 June 2009 23:56)
    Overpriced piece..all set to loot the rich Indian customer..But the smart guys we Indians are..thuis car is going to be a BIG failure..Not only thT..THE IMAGE OF honda WILL take a severe beating in India in the days to come.. | Reply
  • Praveen (10 June 2009 23:50)
    Honda is fooling Indians but costing so high , and selling for peanuts abroad...... | Reply
  • senthil kumar du (09 June 2009 14:20)
    I think the Honda people are desperate in fixing the price... and ofcourse Zig wheels has helped somewhat... lets wait and see whom they have helped.... | Reply
  • Bhagwan Bhai (09 June 2009 13:17)
    Sharique | Reply
  • John (09 June 2009 12:54)
    null | Reply
  • deep (09 June 2009 12:31)
    Honda is simply fooling Indian by pricing so high. | Reply
  • SHAM GULATI (09 June 2009 12:27)
    I have been eagarly following the launch and reviews being posted on zigwheels , all said and done price seems to be a big dampner. May be Ritz with obviously low maintenance costs will make a better choice. | Reply
  • Sappy (09 June 2009 10:45)
    Honda should charge Brand premium very smartly. An excessive premium for Honda brand, that too in the price sensitive small-mid car segment may result in customer losing faith in the brand itself. | Reply
  • Nishanth (09 June 2009 10:16)
    What ever the marketing from! It is overpriced for its segment. | Reply
  • Abhishek (09 June 2009 10:03)
    Hatchbacks are mainly for middle and upper middle class family. A nice car where a family can go for occasional trip and normal day to day activity. If its priced around 7 lakh why would anyone buy it, i would go for 3 box car in same range. Honda whom are you targeting? | Reply
  • pradeep siddharth (09 June 2009 09:56)
    Dear All, For sure that every one can have their own comments, but kindly note that here HONDA has brought us a life style product which is more individual focussed, mainly to be enjoyed for two. Infact this one and the city are the only product which we are getting for similar prices internationally. Here in Dubai a civic is available for less than 8 lakh rupees and an Accord for less than 10 lakh but jazz is priced almost 7 lakh rupees. The one which is available here is a beefed up model and and I don't know what are the features available for the Indian market. Honda wants to cater for a different segment - the urban youth, young women etc. they are giving us a new model. If you feel that it is value for money or you have an affection for a fashion statement go for it. Please don't complain always. Honda cars are more personalised and considered so in that way the world over. Please do not compare it with a swift, ikon, i20 and expect to reduce the price to that levels. Thanks | Reply
  • Veeer (09 June 2009 06:53)
    Hi, I am confused about, why one should compare Mayback when talking of Maruti800. Porch is a previlaged product at home country, Germany,over Mercedes BMW, Audi. I am sure we are talking here about a product a segment below city. Whatever the way, it cannot be better than City in terms materials, engine | Reply
  • chinmaya (09 June 2009 02:43)
    what ever one may say about pricing.But i dont care about it as JAZZ is a honda product and it is always the best. Ihave seen it in the pre launch tests and have taken some photos too .can you tell me where i can upload them ? | Reply
  • Siddhant Saxena (09 June 2009 00:51)
    Please correct the link posted on the TOI main webpage.I partially agree with the author's point of view. True, a car should not always be judged or made to adhere to the concept of "small car, small price" but still the article does reek of being a PR plug. Simply stating, nothing to do with size, the Jazz just doesn't justify its 7 lakh tag. | Reply
  • Rajiv (09 June 2009 00:34)
    Sorry Honda -- You've Just Lost A Loyal Customer -- Maruti Ritz --- My Next Car | Reply
  • Rajiv (09 June 2009 00:26)
    Look at the emotion --- Seems like we all want it but only a few can have it :) Vikram does have a point but when talking about Value for money -- Lets compare practicallyPower - Mileage - Cost of Spares - Cost of the Upbeat / Better Versions in Other Markets- All this make you think that the "Stretched Maximum Price" for the Jazz would be Rs.6.5 L (On Road)Lets talk about the features this car has that the others dont and the premium Honda wants for its Brand.Note :- I have exchanged My Old Exi for the new SMT -- You'll be shocked to hear 2 Tires Burnt in 400 Kms -- Quality of interiors is ridiculously poor -- There are other who still think the First City Model was the best they had --- So going by this analogy i dont think I will pay 7L for Jazz -- Although it was a car I was waiting for over a Couple Of Years --- Total Disappointment --- Honda should not try to fool the Indian Consumers who are anyways extremely price sensitive. | Reply
  • Ranjeet (08 June 2009 23:55)
    I have seen jaaz today at honda showroom and sales guy told me that it would cost 7.5 on roat at kolkata..Its too much for Hatch... | Reply
  • Bhavin (08 June 2009 21:32)
    I agree to vikram-gaur's comments.You simply cannot judge a car through it's pricing | Reply
  • Groovy (08 June 2009 20:02)
    I like Sharique's comment the most. | Reply
  • sharique (08 June 2009 19:35)
    Car is sexy and trendy | Reply
  • Rakesh Sinha (08 June 2009 19:16)
    Ra 1 lakh difference of JAZZ to CITY is no difference.It's Wastage of Time in bringing this car if it is not going to come for less than 7.It's a good car but pricing is going to determine it's success.It should come on road at 5 and half or 6 lacs.They may keep the high end version beyond 6.VIKRAM GAUR are you reading this..We don't want gold/silver material to be used to build the car :) | Reply
  • deepak dj mumbai (08 June 2009 19:11)
    let the car jazz comes out in showrrom after she has been launched official in india the honda will declare price as per all varientsthen it is worh to comment on product and price. | Reply
  • deepak dj mumbai (08 June 2009 19:09)
    let the car jazz comes out in showrrom after she has been launched official in india the honda will declare price as per all varientsthen it is worh to comment on product and price. | Reply
  • sharique (08 June 2009 18:45)
    7 lacs for car with 1.2 liter engine is too high.Its a small car with small engine and pricing should be accordingly. | Reply
  • Ajay (08 June 2009 18:22)
    Is Zigwheels paid to write this article? Zigwheels has not tested the new 1.2 litre engine to comment on how the "extremely tech savvy piece of machinery is designed to offer enhanced mileage and excellent power delivery throughout the torqueband". This is a PR plug. Also, what the hell is the meaning of "host of goodies that will do more than just keep you entertained"? What are these special goodies not available in a 5lac car? The only thing the Jazz has that other hatchbacks don't have is good safety features. | Reply
  • Vikram Gour  (08 June 2009 17:59)
    Hi Ashutosh, Everyone is entitled to their own comments, however, what you have here is just a different line of thought. You are right, the Tempo Traveller would make a brilliant example as well. Why is such a big vehicle so cheap? how come people don't question that? WEll, its got to do a lot with what i said about materials, interiors, exteriors, quality of build and market regulations...so inadvertantly I think you still prove my point. Thanks for providing a different aspect to this article, your valuable feedback is always welcome here at zigwheels.com | Reply
  • Vikram Gour (08 June 2009 17:54)
    HI Kapil, Iam glad that you find this article interesting. My point of mentioning the Porsche 911 is not to draw a comparision of any, but to highlight the fact that it is perception that governs our instincts. The 911 can be small, but it is an iconic car and we are willing to pay the price. The Jazz might be small, but from most comments people don't seem to want to pay even a slight premium. I hope this further clarifies my stance. Its definitely not about apples and oranges :) As for you Asif, this article is generally my view of the product and has been written with an open debate on this chat forum in mind...so please go ahead, share your views. Everyone's views are welcome and you never know...Honda might just listen :) | Reply
  • Ashutosh (08 June 2009 17:27)
    Ouch! Can bootlicking be anymore blatant? Compare with 911? Well why not Tempo traveller? Thats cheaer and a lot bigger. I had started trusting zigwheels for its quality of content. Can you please mark such articles as paid sycophancy in order to regain that trust? | Reply
  • Vivek (08 June 2009 17:15)
    I guess it's a matter of perspective here. Honda is not targetting volumes with the Jazz. They are targetting a different audience here - one that does not mind shelling out big money for a small car. One thing is clear though - this has become an aspirational car for many who cannot affor the 7 lakh price tag. | Reply
  • Asif (08 June 2009 17:09)
    Is it a promotopnal article from HONDA or its your openion. Let the public decide | Reply
  • Kapil (08 June 2009 16:56)
    ha ha ha....u cannot compare apples with oranges Vikram...dont even go into the realm of Porsche 911. It has build itself a name for the last 50 odd years. What has honda got to show for jazz...Also, almost all the foreign car makers except hyundai failed initially in india because of outdated tech and/or high prices. 7 lakh for a luxury sedan is when Skoda has reduced its entry level fabia to 6.22 lakhs, swift zxi is on road ~ 6.2 lakhs, and even the i20 asta is on road ~6.6 lakhs. What are the ppl in honda competing against? | Reply
  • Rakshu (08 June 2009 16:53)
    For an honda hatchback 7 lakhs is not an high amount but as there is competition from other manufacturers as well. i think they should concentrate on the public requirements and needs. therefore they should revise the pricing of the jazz. if that happens honda jazz too is gonna make a good sale this year. | Reply
  • Divya (08 June 2009 16:48)
    i agree with the Honda products n its overall package wld be definitely good, but then as we already have hatchback such as maruthi swift, Hyundai i10 n i20 which has a pricing of around 5-6 lakhs and wr coustomers are ok with the pricing, so if at all honda is quoting 7 lakhs and above, then customer wld give a thought over it. pricing is too bad. | Reply
  • Geetha (08 June 2009 16:40)
    Its right that honda is good in its engines n other equipments. but when u consider the people's expectation , recession. current market condition, i think honda co.should revise there prices n quote a price which is quite affordable n attracts the customer gives out a tough competition to the other manufacturers like maruthi, hyundai etc. | Reply
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